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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 06:21 PM
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Big 3 Upgrade - Got a question

Just did this on my '95 F150, and I'm wondering if there's anything wrong with running a wire directly from the batter + to the alternator? I see many write-ups suggesting this, but the battery light (idiot light) in the instrument cluster came on as soon as I fired up the engine. The voltage (instrument cluster gauge) showed a slightly stronger charge than before.

Don't think it's a problem, but I'm throwing out the feelers here. Thanks.

BTW, I'm running an a 3G alternator out of an Exploder. Don't know why that would make any difference, but I thought I would mention it anyway. It so far has not given me any problems.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 06:54 PM
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I couldnt imagine your truck not having at least a 3G if not a 4G alt already.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 11:50 PM
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I thought the stock alt was a 2G (95 amps) and the upgrade was a 3G at 130 amps. I don't know.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 10:33 AM
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Depending on the year you either got a 2G or 3G. Never had 4G alts in these trucks.

I did a 3g swap on my 86 wti the big 3 upgrade with 0 gauge wiring. 0 gauge from battery + to a 150 amp fuse (130 amp 3G alt) and then to the alternators charge stud. No issues at all.

My 94 I have a 200 amp 3G alternator and big 3 upgrade with 1/0 gauge wiring. 1/0 wiring from battery to 250 amp circuit breaker then right to the alternator charge stud. Had it like that for about 3 years now. No issues.

Have you checked the voltage with a multimeter? Been a while since ive done a 3g swap.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 86F150302
Depending on the year you either got a 2G or 3G. Never had 4G alts in these trucks.

I did a 3g swap on my 86 wti the big 3 upgrade with 0 gauge wiring. 0 gauge from battery + to a 150 amp fuse (130 amp 3G alt) and then to the alternators charge stud. No issues at all.

My 94 I have a 200 amp 3G alternator and big 3 upgrade with 1/0 gauge wiring. 1/0 wiring from battery to 250 amp circuit breaker then right to the alternator charge stud. Had it like that for about 3 years now. No issues.

Have you checked the voltage with a multimeter? Been a while since ive done a 3g swap.
Thanks for your thoughts.

No, I haven't put the multimeter on it. I will do that. I haven't driven it yet this way either. I will be taking it on a short trip (10 miles) today. Maybe the idiot battery light will go out. Will have to see.

I did have the lower grade battery in mine. The 130 amp was an upgrade. I used 2 gauge wire on the "Big 3". I didn't use a fuse, but I can understand why maybe I should. The power wire does get mighty close to the alternator case housing.

I'll be gone visiting relatives for a couple of days, but I'll report back when I back home on what happens.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 12:49 PM
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Voltage to the battery is a solid 14.67
 
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 02:04 PM
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I have a big three on mine because I started pulling some power with my amplifier, but I have no batt light coming up. I have 4 gauge running straight from the alternator with no fuse either lol.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 03:15 PM
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Deff need a fuse. You are risking your truck catching fire without one.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by f-150_1993
I have 4 gauge running straight from the alternator with no fuse either lol.
Laugh if you want, but there's no way the wiring harness in a 2G truck can handle the current that a 130A 3G puts out.

OP.
I don't see anything wrong with running the output (through a fuse) directly to the battery instead of the hot side of the solenoid.
The charge light is glowing because there is a difference in voltage on either side of the filament.
I would check and clean all the connections between the battery+ and the instrument cluster to start.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2011 | 01:27 PM
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Deff need a fuse. You are risking your truck catching fire without one.
hell yeah i know, ill get one soon, and to the other post it can barely handle the 90amps mine does much less the 130amp one thats why I had to upgrade. crappy stock charging wire is like 10 gauge i think.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2011 | 03:41 PM
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Actually there are two 10Ga. wires coming from the alternator in a 2G system.

I have Ryan's 2Ga. wire set and a 175A Megafuse in a Bussmann holder.

But I also have a late model gear reduction starter that takes most of the load off the factory fender solenoid.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 01:50 PM
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Ok, I'm back home again. Thanks for your responses.

The battery "idiot" light went off after 15-20 miles of driving. Maybe it'll come back on again. After listening to your responses, I don't think it's a big deal.

I do feel nervous about that unfused power wire. Any recommendations on where to look for a fuse of that nature? Will the auto parts stores have them?
 
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 02:00 PM
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Autozone will have a 150 amp circuit breaker. I prefer circuit breakers to fuses.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 02:13 PM
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I bought mine from RJM.
You can go to any place that does car audio.
They have the heavy duty stuff.
 
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Most auto parts stores should have mega fuses. I run a 175A fuse between my 4G (130A) & battery in my 69 Bronco. Good insurance!
 
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