Ok so my trans guy got my trans out yesterday. It did end up being a broken reverse clutch hub. What the reverse clutch hub does when I'm in drive, I have no idea but whatever. The trans was originally a Jasper rebuild and they did do a couple of upgrades but still think it may be ideal to upgrade a couple of more parts. The planets (580 & 582) are already upgraded to 6 gear steel cages so I do not have to worry about those. I did already do a shift kit so that is taken care of. The intermediate sprag (652) is currently a 34 element but going to upgrade to a 45 element heavy duty sprag. The band (022) is going to get replaced with a carbon fiber band. The shell (622) does have some slop in it where the sun gear (612) rides so it is going to be replaced. I don't know if there is a heavy duty shell but if someone knows of one, please advise. Now the expensive parts, the clutches and steels...The clutches and steels aren't bad but think I going to have them replaced anyhow. I am in a toss up if steels are worth the money and longevity of getting kolene coated ones or not. OPINIONS HERE PLEASE! To the clutches, do I need red clutches or would blue be sufficient for me? OPINIONS HERE TOO PLEASE!
All of the numbers that are in parentheses are in reference to the Ford catalog: Transtar Industries, Inc. - Transmission Parts - Catalogs on page 106 & 107.

 

So does anybody really know much about clutches cause I would really like some sort of input? Even if you know what BTS or JW puts in their trans.

 

Cant help ya with the technical side of m8 what I can add is I have dealt with John Woods from all the way over here in AUS. He is a top fella, why dont ya give him a call ??

 

Cant help ya with the technical side of it m8 but what I can add is I have dealt with John Woods from all the way over here in AUS. He is a top fella, why dont ya give him a call ??

 

Well do you think he is really going to tell me what exactly is in it so I can build it myself? I guess it is worth a try.

 

I used the Alto Red Eagle frictions and the Kolene steels in my trans. IIRC, JW is partial to Borg Warner clutches. I, too, have the 45 element sprag and carbon fiber band. I reused my shell, as it was in good shape. A hardened shell is available. Shell, E4OD / 4R100 Input shell (36622B / A) | Hard parts | Transmission Parts by Bulkpart
I also learned the hard way that clutch packs that offer extra discs is not always a good thing. Ask me how I know. I purchased a kit that offers a a good compromise, in that respect, and gives increased reliablility. If you have any other questions, I'd be glad to help.

 

Jasper trans are known to not hold up. As for clutchs JW uses ford clutchs in his tow master transmissions. That surpised me to but mine has held up good so far. Its all the other machining he dose that makes them so strong.
Chet

 

Well that is definitely interesting about JW. I would never have guessed that.

 

Broken trans part is $35, but upgrading to kolene steels, red frictions throughout, carbon fiber band, hardened shell, and upgraded intermediate sprag for an additional $625. Labor is going to be about $600 so basically upgrading to a built trans for $1225. Could go with a billet TC for another $425 but decided to pass right now.

 

The TC is important if your towing. It puts everything to the road. I wouldn't go cheap there.

Chet

 

I do not do a lot of heavy towing and my current TC shows no signs of excessive heat in the past. Yes I know, one can't tell the internals from the outside but I can always upgrade down the road when I feel like it or the current one starts to give way.

 

I have follow this tread and it has alot of great info. But was wondering what TC you were looking at for $425. And who are you using for trans parts ?

 

same thing i was thinking....a really good tc costs about 1100......

 

Well that is the quote transtar gave us but then I was reading some reviews and cheap Chinese TC use junk parts. When I actually upgrade mine, I'm actually going to buy a good one without Chinese parts.

 

Know use sending the money if you don't put a TC in thats going to deliver the power. Its the heart of delivery.

Chet