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Old 10-13-2011, 05:57 PM
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lift kit with full rear spring's?

I have been looking for a mid range ($) 4" lift kit for my truck (2006 F250 diesel, Crew Cab, short bed) for a while now. My rear springs are shot, and I was wondering, instead of buying new stock type spring's now, who makes a good lift with full springs in the rear, and the cost?

I am not looking for 4links with coilovers. I take my truck into some bad spots, but nothing that I need a desert racing lift for. I was thinking in the $1500-$1900 range.

I also tow and haul alot, (am young enough, I dont mind lifting higher, to load) so would like to stay away from huge blocks in the back. (I dont like how the axle wraps while towing)
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Not sure what happened Adam but this thread got posted twice back to back here. I deleted one of the duplicate threads so you've only got this one.

Anyway, here's a bump for your thread.
 
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Old 10-14-2011, 07:54 AM
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Thank's John. I tried to delete 1, but didn't know how. I am not really sure why it posted 2x's either.
 
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So, tell us more about the overall plan... you want a 4" lift kit but what about tire size?
 
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Do your homework on the lift parts, and especially the quality of the leafs and coils. Sometimes the most appealing part of a lift kit is the initial price, only to disappoint in the quality department.

I definitely am into doing leafs on the rear, and a small block to tailor the stance to your liking if necessary, as opposed to retaining the OEM leaves and using a taller block(s). One thing to be aware of is most aftermarket lift springs do not have overloads. This is a moot point for the most part if you are running air bags.

Again, ask lots of questions regarding spring manufacturing. Coils and leaves that sag after time are a huge disappointment.
 
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Andrew, I am looking too run a 35 or 36" tire, whatever I find the best deal on. (I actually found, but didn't buy, 36" Toyo MT's for $1100.)(315 70 18)

SoCal, I have seen what some lift's look like, and that's why I asked this Question. My buddy has the same truck, only an F350, and a 6"Rough Country. At the time (they may have changed their instructions) but they suggested if you still want your raked forward stance, too stack the rear blocks! I want NO part of that. The truck axle wraps bad, and the block's are always turning. I feel that is extremely unsafe, and that is why I prefer more spring, less block!
I am running airbags. My spring's are so bent outta shape, and wore out, that I have too run them with air at all times(20psi usually). I hate the way the Bag's make it feel like the truck is "bottoming" out, all the time.

I am still thinking a good 3" leveling kit, with spring's from a local spring shop might be my best bet for the stance I want. I was actually kinda thinkin 4" too try and get a hair more flex out of the truck. My theory was if I put a 4" and only run 35's I wouldnt extend the bumpstops the full 4"s. I would cut them say 2"s and gain a little more twist.
 
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I would recommend the following:

Bilstein 2.5" Leveling Kit (2 springs & 2 5100 shocks) - $397.01 w/ free shipping - As a FTE member, you get a 7% discount that is NOT included in the price above.

Bilstein shocks and struts for cars and trucks - Shockwarehouse.com)


Topgun Adjustable Track Bar - $229.95 w/ $24.95 shipping

05-07 Ford Super Duty 3"-4.5" Adjustable Track Bar @Top Gun Customz


Bilstein 5100 Rear Shocks - $79.95 each w/ free shipping - As a FTE member, you get a 7% discount that is NOT included in the price above.

Bilstein shocks and struts for cars and trucks - Shockwarehouse.com


Deaver 3" Custom Rear Springs - $769.00 (estimated w/o shipping) - I have emailed Deaver about the availability and price of 3" custom rear springs.

Deaver Suspension

So, with the 7% FTE disounts applied, here is the estimated final price:

+ $369.22 - Bilstein 2.5" Leveling Kit (Springs & 5100 Front Shocks)
+ $254.90 - Topgun Adjustable Track Bar
+ $148.71 - Bilstein 5100 Rear Shocks
+ $769.00 - Deaver 3" Custom Rear Springs
= $1,541.83

Here is the thread for the FTE 7% discount at ShockWarehouse.com:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...e-members.html
 
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Here is the actual price for the Deaver 3" rear leaf springs:

No problem they are a made to order item. $950 for the pair and 3 weeks to produce.

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Subject: 2006 F250 4X4 w/ 2.5" Front Leveling Kit and Custom Rear Leaf Springs

Hey Guys,
I have a 2006 F250 4X4 diesel truck and want to install the Icon 2.5” leveling kit but need the appropriate rear leaf springs. I think that I need 3” custom rear leaf springs to complement the 2.5” level kit. I do not want to use rear blocks.

Are 3” Deaver rear springs available and at what price?

Thanks!

Andrew
Huntersville, NC
 
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if you get a 2.5" front lift, you will need (on an f350) 6.5" lift in the back if you want to keep your current stance and eliminate the blocks at the same time.

if you want a leveled truck then a 3.5 - 4" rear spring lift will keep you there.
i am afraid that a 3" lift will get you nose up
 
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$950 is really outrageous for 1900's technology. I would be better off buying stock and adding leaves myself. I am not saying I dont appreciate your input or suggestions, but that is way too much for a pair of springs!

I love this site as Ppl go above and beyond, and research places and thing's that I never would of thought of. I appreciate all the advice.
 
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Originally Posted by Gordon-0
if you get a 2.5" front lift, you will need (on an f350) 6.5" lift in the back if you want to keep your current stance and eliminate the blocks at the same time.

if you want a leveled truck then a 3.5 - 4" rear spring lift will keep you there.
i am afraid that a 3" lift will get you nose up

I dont mean too get rid of the stock sized block all together, I just dont want a 6" block. Believe me, I have thought about add a leave's and f350 blocks! I just was thinking that My spring's are shot anyways, if I am gonna replace them I may as well look for a lift spring and not add a taller block.

I am gonna take this one step further though, and ask, Who at Ford, when they built the Superduty (for 1999, when they started from scratch) thought it was a genius idea too put blocks in from the get go? I mean they started with a whole new chassis suspension, and drivetrain, and the engineers said "ding" lets put blocks in rather than just design the suspension too work without blocks. I grew up in ford F-series trucks, and ever since I can remember Axle Wrap has alway's been prevelent in the ford's.
 
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Originally Posted by Gordon-0
if you get a 2.5" front lift, you will need (on an f350) 6.5" lift in the back if you want to keep your current stance and eliminate the blocks at the same time.

if you want a leveled truck then a 3.5 - 4" rear spring lift will keep you there.
i am afraid that a 3" lift will get you nose up
I was under the impression that a 3" lifted spring was above the OEM height without the use of any blocks. Therefore, a 3" lift is actually 5" (excluding the 2" rear blocks + 3" of lift) on a F250. It would be 7" (excluding the 4" rear block + 3" of lift) on a F350.

From what you are saying, a 2.5" leveling kit would require a 2.5" additional lift in the back, which is 4.5" (2" rear block + 2.5" additional lift). Deaver sells the non-custom 5" rear springs for $769.00, which would give the truck a slight rake and would not require any rear blocks.

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$950 is really outrageous for 1900's technology. I would be better off buying stock and adding leaves myself. I am not saying I dont appreciate your input or suggestions, but that is way too much for a pair of springs!

I love this site as Ppl go above and beyond, and research places and thing's that I never would of thought of. I appreciate all the advice.
Deaver springs are considered the best in the industry. Top quality parts are not cheap.
 
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I am not arguing that!
 
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2001 F250 Crew Cab 5.4L

I went with a BDS 4" lift with full leafs in the rear. They put the stock blocks in under the full leafs in the rear and I am glad they did. They said they thought it looked a little weird without the blocks in there. It has a little rake to it but I figure I can put a leveling kit in it down the road if it settles up front. I also put about 500lbs of sand in the back for the winter so.....Anyways I got about 5 1/2 or a little more in the rear and about 4 1/4 in the front. They did a great job with the lift! The truck drives nicer than it ever has before.


 


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