'51 F4 project
#1126
#1127
The Shop Manual I got that other number from is the 49 - 51 with 52 Supplement. So I don't know why the TDAA tank is in there.
#1128
#1130
Here's one way to get pics into your posts.
Go to Photobucket.com and sign up for a free account. Then create an album for your truck. Upload any pics you want to post on FTE to that album. Have this album open on your computer when you want to post pics on FTE.
While you're making a post on FTE, select the pic you want to post from your Photobucket album. When the large version of the pic is open, right mouse click on it and select "View Image Info". The image info will be highlighted and will look something like this:
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...ghtsafter1.jpg
Copy that highlighted info (right click / copy).
When you have the spot in your post where you want the pic to be placed, select the "Insert Image" icon at the top of the post (looks like a mountain) and paste (right click / paste) the image info you copied in the highlighted box (just shows "http://" when it opens).
Your pic will be placed in the post.
Hope that helps.
#1131
The 8T 9002-A 25 gallon tank shows a dimension of 10.5 high, 32.5 long and 18 wide, for F 4,5,6 conventional and cabover except school bus. That sounds more like possibly an optional exterior aux. tank and would really stick into the back of the seat if it was inside the cab, imho.
FWIW, COE's didn't have a bench seat though, just a single bucket seat.
My COE had the regular size tank in it.
#1132
Thanks Ross.
I've never filled the tank because I don't trust the rubber seal on the filler pipe, so I don't want to "test" it. I added 10 gallons the other day, and the gauge was reading full. So, the gauge or sender isn't right, since the tank is supposed to hold 25 gallons and it was near empty (on the gauge) when I added gas.
And I'd be quite happy with 12 mpg.
I've never filled the tank because I don't trust the rubber seal on the filler pipe, so I don't want to "test" it. I added 10 gallons the other day, and the gauge was reading full. So, the gauge or sender isn't right, since the tank is supposed to hold 25 gallons and it was near empty (on the gauge) when I added gas.
And I'd be quite happy with 12 mpg.
#1133
Scott, I priced a new one. Mac's has them for $170 plus shipping. I'd much rather spend less than $10 replacing the brushes and springs and some time cleaning up the mess. I cleaned up the commutator and armature this afternoon and repainted the cover band after I scratched the fresh paint.
And if I hadn't pulled it out to get the oil pan off, I would never have noticed it didn't have the cover band on it to keep the junk out.
The starter worked great when I pulled it out. I hope it still works after I'm through with it!
And if I hadn't pulled it out to get the oil pan off, I would never have noticed it didn't have the cover band on it to keep the junk out.
The starter worked great when I pulled it out. I hope it still works after I'm through with it!
When I tossed the Y-block that had been (poorly) swapped into my F-5, I didn't keep the starter, so I can't check this myself.
#1134
I'm glad you are out enjoying driving Betsy again.
With your low axle ratio and 95 horsepower engine you are experiencing the reason auxiliary transmissions were popular with over the road truckers. You could look around for a Watson unit or a Spicer 5831. An overdrive ratio of 0.85 would get you going about 55 m.p.h at about 2500 r.p.m. An overdrive ratio of 0.7 would get you going about 65 m.p.h. at about 2500 r.p.m.
With your low axle ratio and 95 horsepower engine you are experiencing the reason auxiliary transmissions were popular with over the road truckers. You could look around for a Watson unit or a Spicer 5831. An overdrive ratio of 0.85 would get you going about 55 m.p.h at about 2500 r.p.m. An overdrive ratio of 0.7 would get you going about 65 m.p.h. at about 2500 r.p.m.
#1135
I'm glad you are out enjoying driving Betsy again.
With your low axle ratio and 95 horsepower engine you are experiencing the reason auxiliary transmissions were popular with over the road truckers. You could look around for a Watson unit or a Spicer 5831. An overdrive ratio of 0.85 would get you going about 55 m.p.h at about 2500 r.p.m. An overdrive ratio of 0.7 would get you going about 65 m.p.h. at about 2500 r.p.m.
With your low axle ratio and 95 horsepower engine you are experiencing the reason auxiliary transmissions were popular with over the road truckers. You could look around for a Watson unit or a Spicer 5831. An overdrive ratio of 0.85 would get you going about 55 m.p.h at about 2500 r.p.m. An overdrive ratio of 0.7 would get you going about 65 m.p.h. at about 2500 r.p.m.
I was discussing a Brownie Box with Joe harleymsn a few months ago, as he got one from Chuck's Trucks back in April of last year to add to Edith.
I have a few more things to take care of before I get real concerned about going faster. Pretty sure I need to replace the king pins and bushings and check the steering box for wear or adjustment. Betsy tends to wander a bit, but that hasn't been a real concern while she was sitting in the shop.
#1136
I'm wondering if part of my rough ride is because the leaf springs on all four corners look like they're rusted together.
They're so stiff, I can't do anything to make them flex. But that may be perfectly normal for an F4 with the extra springs.
Anyone know if the springs could be made more "flexible" by cleaning them up. I'm more than a little afraid of working on them after reading some of AXracer's posts.
They're so stiff, I can't do anything to make them flex. But that may be perfectly normal for an F4 with the extra springs.
Anyone know if the springs could be made more "flexible" by cleaning them up. I'm more than a little afraid of working on them after reading some of AXracer's posts.
#1137
I don't know that I'd want to mess with taking apart big springs like yours. If you took them off, a shop could disassemble them.
The stock F-1 leafs have a "U"-shaped channel in them to allow oil to get down in between. With all the rust and years of sand in mine, adding oil seemed like a bad idea, so I waited til after they were off and I'd knocked as much out as possible, then washed them with a rich mix of detergent, which got out a lot more. Unloaded there is a bigger gap between leaves that lets stuff come out, when you bang them on the ground. After they were re-installed, I squirted some old used oil down in there.
Here's the rub... My steering box continually "lubricated" my new left front spring. With no rust or dirt and lots of 90wt, the left front was TOO smooth, it bounced too much. I put on much heavier shocks and it helped. There is a lot of damping provided by friction in the leaves, don't overdue the oiling!
If you do disassemble them (or have it done), here's something to look for. When the spring compresses, the leaves get to the end of the furrow they've worn, and dig in... Round off the tops of your leaves, remove any sharp corners.
The stock F-1 leafs have a "U"-shaped channel in them to allow oil to get down in between. With all the rust and years of sand in mine, adding oil seemed like a bad idea, so I waited til after they were off and I'd knocked as much out as possible, then washed them with a rich mix of detergent, which got out a lot more. Unloaded there is a bigger gap between leaves that lets stuff come out, when you bang them on the ground. After they were re-installed, I squirted some old used oil down in there.
Here's the rub... My steering box continually "lubricated" my new left front spring. With no rust or dirt and lots of 90wt, the left front was TOO smooth, it bounced too much. I put on much heavier shocks and it helped. There is a lot of damping provided by friction in the leaves, don't overdue the oiling!
If you do disassemble them (or have it done), here's something to look for. When the spring compresses, the leaves get to the end of the furrow they've worn, and dig in... Round off the tops of your leaves, remove any sharp corners.
#1138
Just thinking out loud about the rough ride... It's really pretty hairy.