whoooo wheeee, did I poke a hornets nest or what.

So, let's start from the top.
Just because you saw it, doesn't make it original to the year. Provide some document, picture from a Ford publication or other compelling evidence. Please

As they say in the legal world, hearsay. Show me the proof Spock.
Just because it came off one in a junkyard, does not make it original to the year.

Yes I agree with that. I was just stating my evidence. Pictures don't lie. (well, maybe sometime, but let's not go down that conspiracy theory rat hole)
Unless someone has evidence to the contrary, that's all we have to go on, yes? What better proof of OEM than original factory brochures, ads, manuals, etc?
It's not the end of the discussion, but it is circumstantial, which is pretty good. IMHO

Yes, I see that, very good evidence! THANKS CHRIS. But that only covers 80 to 89. I was talking about the 1978 and the post regarding the Explorer.
I did not mention anything about 7th gen trucks. I'll let you guys battle that out.

your point eludes me.

You've made a number of points, but have NOT provided any evidence to support your position or statements.
Please post a document, link to a document, picture or other such evidence to support your statement. Otherwise (and I say this with all due respect) it's hearsay.
Opinions are great! I love reading all the opinions on this forum. I too have a lot of opinions, but those don't get me anyplace unless I have corroborating evidence to support it. As Martha said "Where's the Beef!" If you have it, I bow to your wisdom.
(note: I never said anything about what I had on my 78?? And I did not say they are correct, in fact I know they're not. That's why I'm looking to find the 'correct ones')

Ok... get ready.... wait for it..... wait for it.....
FLAME ON

 

You are reading intense emotion where there isn't any hostility. I actually respect that you want absolute proof and a not willing to take my word on it.

I provided the evidence that they existed for one, which from your statements you were skeptical they even existed it seemed. Hence my comment that they are in the 1981 brochure on page 11.

However you are not going to get 100% proof because it doesn't exist on the internet or in one complete source. I can provide evidence of year of first use, using the 1980-1989 parts book however by using the part numbers. When they stopped useage is a little more tricky because the parts book isn't 100% accurate, and it's not well documented.

...and since you want picture proof of my statements...

Chris can you post the page with the part numbers for the type 5's and type 3's please.

Ford part numbers hide a lot of valuable information in them.

The Type 5 shown on the 1978 Explorer is from looking at the picture: D8TZ-1130-C. It could be a couple other numbers, however that picture is not the best example. They came in argent, brightly polished, etc... etc...

The Part number breaks down as the following.

D = 1970's
8 = 8 (combine D and 8) = 1978
T = Truck
Z = Parts division
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1130 = Wheel cover (hub caps)
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C = design change

The part number's first year above matches the year of the 1978 Explorer. It was designed for a truck, so they existed in 1978.

Type 3: F-100/F-150: D7TZ-1130-A this is 1977.
Type 3: F-250/F-350: E5TZ-1130-D this is 1985.
Type 3: F-250/F-350 4x4: E5TZ-1130-E also 1985.

Since there are no Type 3: F-250/F-350 part numbers listed before 1985, they didn't exist before the 1985 year model.

Chris does not have access to the 1973-1979 parts catalog, I don't think, however Bill (Numberdummy) does, but he has no way of posting pictures of it either. I know the type 5 caps are listed there as well through experience. I have no way of getting picture proof of that statement, and neither does Numberdummy that I know of, so you would have to rely on my word, and/or numberdummy's that they are in the 1973-1979 book.

The reason why Chris can post pictures of the 1980-1989 book, is that he has an electronic copy. I do not know who has access to a electronic copy of the 1973-1979 book though, or if they can copy the relevant pages for that matter.

 

Whoaaaaa I have no proof of this, like I said I only SAW these caps on many 70's trucks., plus going by what alot of people say/said. Ofcourse someone could have put them on for fun, I have no proof. I wasn't standing along the assembly line in 1977 watching witch cap was being put on the right rear rim of a Custom F350 here!

Calm down now. Were just talking about hubcaps.....

 

From the 1984 F-Series:



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Thanks Chris, I'd rep you if I wasn't in reputation jail.

 

Here are the hub caps and wheel covers listed in the 73-79 catalog. It's two pages, scroll down to look at the second.

 

Thanks Mike.

It seems the Type 5 are called Type 12, and Type 3 is Type 10 in the 1973-1979 books.

Same identicle caps though...

Leave it to Ford to change the Type numbers between parts catalogs to make it confusing.

 

I don't want to add to the confusion..So I'll just put this pic of my 76 F250 caps (however worn) on here..Trav..

 

Ah yes, those C7TZ-1130's were essentially replaced later by the Type 5 (1980-1989 book), / or Type 12 (1973-1979 book) style, depending on the parts book you use. Those are year correct for your truck Trav.

My 1972 F-250 used those you have pictured. My 1973 F-100 used type 1 (1980-1989 book) / type 7 (1973-1979 book)

 

Heres a clean set

 

Well, it appears that after backing up alongside a tall curb this morning I'm looking for a E5TZ 1130D Type 3 hubcap to fit the 16" wheel on a full floating 10.25" rear.




My Christmas present to myself 15 years ago.




Going to go post this in the junkyard wishlist thread...

 

Ya know, I've seen those things in the yard before! Never gotten any, though.

 

Chris,
Not that I'd want (or can afford) a shiny new hubcap on one corner of my truck.
But I will do what I have to to keep the studs & lugnuts from corroding in the salt and Mag Chloride they spread around here.

Why do I save things like the tag from a 15 year old parts box???
There you go!

 

Don't think I have pics, but on my 80 I painted the wheels black, put type 3's on it with white letter tires, it looked cool. I got all4 in the jy, tthere might be some of the 3/4 ton ones, I'll look next time I'm in there. Same jy that has the Bronco with factory electric mirrors.

 

Thanks 9wire!
... Well, I did put it in the JYWL thread.

Scrap yards around here just pull the gas tanks and throw the vehicle in the shredder, then ship the chunks off to China.