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Old 07-24-2011, 11:30 AM
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Question Anyone have any experience with Mag Tec Trans Pan?

Looking for the positives and negative of going with a deeper pan.
Also what about trans fuild. Anyone use Bully Dog or Amsoil? Worth the bucks? Thanks, KT
 
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Don't switch from the required mercon for your tranny. It has been discussed before that you need to stick with the mercon.

As far as a deeper tranny pan I don't think it would be beneficial.
 
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We just put a mag-hytec transmission pan on my dads 2000 7.3 and so far it has been doing great. Before just in town driving and getting on it quite a few times, it would run right around 180 degrees. After installing the pan and same kind of driving style it is running right around 150 degrees. Haven't pulled anything with the new pan yet but it seems to be doing its job.
 
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Thanks for the input guys

I read in a post that Ford recommends Mercon LV instead of SP that is listed in the manual. Correct?
 
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the only way you can get SP now is old stock, they dont make it anymore....
 
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Exactly what benefit do you expect to gain with a deeper pan?
 
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I think SP is still the only fluid specified for a couple of transmissions.

Click on Quick Reference Charts, then
click on Automatic Transmission Fluid Chart
at the link below
FCSD Chemicals and Lubricants

It was still available at my jobber a few months ago but it cost more than the LV I purchased; IIRC the LV cost me about what I use to pay for the SP.

The transmission flare that I have posted about previously has not happened since changing to the LV; but, I also had the updated flash shortly after the fluid change. Now I have probably jinxed my transmission

Bob

 
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Originally Posted by bismic
Just saw this on BITOG:

TECH TIPS
Approval to Service ALL 5R110 Automatic Transmissions with MERCON® LV
Beginning immediately ALL (2003 to 2010 MY) 5R110 automatic transmissions can be serviced with
MERCON® LV automatic transmission fluid in place of MERCON® SP.
Initially only the 2009/10MY 5R110 automatic transmissions were filled and serviced with MERCON® LV.
In an effort to reduce complexity, Ford Motor Company is allowing all previous model year 5R110
automatic transmissions to be serviced with MERCON® LV automatic transmission fluid. This pertains to
top off as well as fluid replacement. Mixing of MERCON® LV and MERCON® SP in the 5R110
transmission is acceptable. Extensive testing has been performed to insure there are no functional or
durability concerns with the use of MERCON® LV in the 5R110 automatic transmission.
Vehicles affected are F-Series Super Duty trucks (including chassis cab, motorhome, LCF).


I am not bold enough to try it based on only one source, but thought I would post it up anyway.

Ford Torqshift 5w110 takes Mercon LV now - Bob Is The Oil Guy
Looks like LV is spec'd for all TorqShift trannies.

On edit: Interesting chart... looks like it's still specified for some Explorers and Navigators...
 
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6HP26 transmission as used in
05-08 Lincoln Navigator and some of the old the old Ford PAG (premium auto group)
Jaguar, Range Rover, & Maserati

One of the two transmissions in the chart I refered to that still use SP.....


Same transmission used in a Hyundai Genesis; the Hyundai specified fluid is $75/qt. It is a German designed transmission used in several other vehicles.
 
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Crazy001 I was thinking deeper pan- trans runs cooler and with more fluid it would last longer and drain plug for less mess when service. Maybe I should not think?
Thanks to all for the input.
 
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Deeper pan will mean your fluid will hold the heat longer.
 
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Originally Posted by ktheavner
Crazy001 I was thinking deeper pan- trans runs cooler and with more fluid it would last longer and drain plug for less mess when service. Maybe I should not think?
Thanks to all for the input.
Your thinking is right on, larger deeper pan will have more surface area to dissipate heat in your fluid. Also mag. drain plug collects material and keeps it. The benefits might be hard to quantify but overkill is always my favorite way to go.
 
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Originally Posted by Greyman
Your thinking is right on, larger deeper pan will have more surface area to dissipate heat in your fluid.
Overkill may be okay in some circumstances, but did you ever think that there can be too much of a good thing?

Cooling an engine is great, but it can't get too cool or it won't run right. This is a sign of a faulty thermostat and causes overcooling...which can destroy your engine.

Your transmission has the exact same type of device on the cooling circuit. It's purpose is to allow the transmission to get up to temp and keep it there. And it excels at this function, the transmission will very rarely stray from 10° of this setting. Even when towing very heavy, the tranny will NOT get much warmer than the desired temp, which I think is 170°. What benefit would you gain from this deeper pan? BTW...more fluid also takes longer to heat up.
 
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