Places to look for cause of low MPGs
#16
A lot of great info on here guys....I'm new to the site here, but have a little info that really has helped my MPGs also. Warm the engine before you move. I thought it was bogus info for the summer months, but has really turned out to be on the money...Wait till the "needle" starts to climb before driving. Can really make a difference, not to mention gets the engine full of lube before you start raising the RPMs
#17
A lot of great info on here guys....I'm new to the site here, but have a little info that really has helped my MPGs also. Warm the engine before you move. I thought it was bogus info for the summer months, but has really turned out to be on the money...Wait till the "needle" starts to climb before driving. Can really make a difference, not to mention gets the engine full of lube before you start raising the RPMs
#19
So, using these theories, if I ditch the 6637, 4" lift and 285 mud tread tires I should get back close to 10mpg??????
Take all mileage claims with a grain of salt. Not saying that anyone here is lying, but there really are too many variables to apply to mileage being the same for everyone.
Take all mileage claims with a grain of salt. Not saying that anyone here is lying, but there really are too many variables to apply to mileage being the same for everyone.
#22
#23
A few things to look at and test.
1. Tire tread pattern. Aggressive tires will normally yield worse mileage.
2. Air intake. I had 5 customers tell me that they all lost 4 mpg after installing the intake. Try putting the stock air box back in.
3. HPOP pressures. Low pressures will prevent optimum atomization.
4. Fuel quality. Make sure you run a good additive.
5. Oil. Good clean oil will help. Remember to always change the HPOP reservoir oil each time.
Jody
1. Tire tread pattern. Aggressive tires will normally yield worse mileage.
2. Air intake. I had 5 customers tell me that they all lost 4 mpg after installing the intake. Try putting the stock air box back in.
3. HPOP pressures. Low pressures will prevent optimum atomization.
4. Fuel quality. Make sure you run a good additive.
5. Oil. Good clean oil will help. Remember to always change the HPOP reservoir oil each time.
Jody
#24
No idea. But I've never had any symptoms to suggest they need any attention.
I am unfamiliar with MAP sensor. Can you please tell me what it stands for, what it does, how it works, etc?
Yes. I did notice an increase in MPG when I cleaned out my EBP Sensor and tubing.
Ditto. I also thought that was considered unnecessary. Jody has spoken!
Would THIS be the procedure to fix that?
Thanks. I have read that document before, and follow all the suggestions. Even reinstalled my airdam.
I now realize that 4lbs is normal at cruising speeds. Yesterday I pulled my IC tubes and boots, cleaned everything thoroughly, and reinstalled today. The majority of my boost leak is gone! I can now produce 25lbs of boost easily (and by that I mean putting the pedal down), where as before I could push 15lbs and be worried my turbo was going to blow up because of how loud it was.
Currently I hop between 80t and 80e on my DP Tuner as required for work. My 13MPG is averaged tank to tank. The tuner is not to blame, it can only work with what its given and if something is broken it cant fix it. My MPGs sucked before the tuner, and the tuner didnt change that, but it added MUCH more power. So I gained power and no change to MPGs. I guess that could translate into improved economy.
I'm going to assume that you are doing all the things that the driver can do to maximize fuel mileage. The best drivers can get a 30% increase in fuel mileage over the worse drivers in the same vehicle (this has been proven by fleets numerous times). Given that Trey, you might want to read this white paper by Cummins (it is aimed at Class 8 trucks, but the physics applies to other vehicles.
Trey, as I am new to the PSD world too, I'm curious to see what answers you may get out of this thread.
What tune are you running that you are pulling the low MPGs? Are you sticking to one in particular or is your stated MPG an average?
I'm still on my first tank of diesel at the moment. Haven't had much cause to drive my truck as of yet with vacation and a pregnant wife who can't climb up in to the monster. But, I'm running a stock Superchips tune at the moment until I get a warm fuzzy on what the MPG is. Then I plan to switch over to the economy tune I downloaded yesterday and see how that pans out.
I'd recommend running through the entire driveline to make sure all the mechnicals are 100%. One bad u-joint or wheel bearing can cause a ripple effect that will degrade performance, IMO. Will it degrade it enough to drop you to 13MPG? Doubtful. But I imagine you want every percentage point back that you can possibly get.
What tune are you running that you are pulling the low MPGs? Are you sticking to one in particular or is your stated MPG an average?
I'm still on my first tank of diesel at the moment. Haven't had much cause to drive my truck as of yet with vacation and a pregnant wife who can't climb up in to the monster. But, I'm running a stock Superchips tune at the moment until I get a warm fuzzy on what the MPG is. Then I plan to switch over to the economy tune I downloaded yesterday and see how that pans out.
I'd recommend running through the entire driveline to make sure all the mechnicals are 100%. One bad u-joint or wheel bearing can cause a ripple effect that will degrade performance, IMO. Will it degrade it enough to drop you to 13MPG? Doubtful. But I imagine you want every percentage point back that you can possibly get.
#25
#26
I can't believe nobody mentioned gear ratio's. you could be "pushing plywood through wind" with your big truck. You lifted it, added bigger tires. Now your engine is "struggling" to keep up speed. If you started with 3.73's you would need to go to like 4.11's to keep everything in prospective.
When I was building Ford "streetable" rock crawlers. I was using 5.89's. Couldn't go fast, but the engine never struggled and got great mpg's with 42's
This isn't a bash on your lift kit and big tires. Its just an observation that nobody including you mentioned your gear ratio's. My 91 IDI 7.3 "bread Van" got 14mpg and it had 5.14's Talking about pushing plywood through the air.
When I was building Ford "streetable" rock crawlers. I was using 5.89's. Couldn't go fast, but the engine never struggled and got great mpg's with 42's
This isn't a bash on your lift kit and big tires. Its just an observation that nobody including you mentioned your gear ratio's. My 91 IDI 7.3 "bread Van" got 14mpg and it had 5.14's Talking about pushing plywood through the air.
#27
I can't believe nobody mentioned gear ratio's. you could be "pushing plywood through wind" with your big truck. You lifted it, added bigger tires. Now your engine is "struggling" to keep up speed. If you started with 3.73's you would need to go to like 4.11's to keep everything in prospective.
When I was building Ford "streetable" rock crawlers. I was using 5.89's. Couldn't go fast, but the engine never struggled and got great mpg's with 42's
This isn't a bash on your lift kit and big tires. Its just an observation that nobody including you mentioned your gear ratio's. My 91 IDI 7.3 "bread Van" got 14mpg and it had 5.14's Talking about pushing plywood through the air.
When I was building Ford "streetable" rock crawlers. I was using 5.89's. Couldn't go fast, but the engine never struggled and got great mpg's with 42's
This isn't a bash on your lift kit and big tires. Its just an observation that nobody including you mentioned your gear ratio's. My 91 IDI 7.3 "bread Van" got 14mpg and it had 5.14's Talking about pushing plywood through the air.
Metric To Inches Tire Size Conversion
According to Tire Size Calculator - tire & wheel plus sizing
The factory size was 235/85/16 which equals 31.7".
What would be my optimum gear ratio? I am not good with gear ratio stuff... So help me out here. Going to an "Optimum gear ratio" such as 4.11 or 4.27 should put my MPGs in line? Will it hurt off road capabilities or affect towing?
#30
I also have my 6637 under the hood, no air box, but i cut holes in the front so it feeds more fresh air at high speed. the bottom of the battery box is still mounted, with the front air feeder box tube, but there's no cap on the box.
my 80e shifts into 4th early too so i can cruise around town in 4th gear @ 41mph
my 80e shifts into 4th early too so i can cruise around town in 4th gear @ 41mph