Saginaw Drop pitman arm questions--with pics
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Saginaw Drop pitman arm questions--with pics
Just got a 4 inch drop pitman arm and I wanted to know if this is enough clearance. It's at full lock as if turning to the right
The tape measure pic is basically worthless you can faintly make out the 4 inch mark at the lowest point it's more like 3 1/2 inches of clearance.
The tape measure pic is basically worthless you can faintly make out the 4 inch mark at the lowest point it's more like 3 1/2 inches of clearance.
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Late to the party on this thread but I'll join...
Info & side rant on this...
If you want to know for sure why not just cycle the suspension???? It always amazes me why people are too lazy to do things right. I know, I know it takes time... I cycled my setup a few times to check clearances on everything.
What you have to do is break the leaf pack down so just the main leaf is there, with a block of some sort underneath it to make up for the height of the removed leafs. Bolt the axle to the setup and jack the front end "up", compressing the front suspension until it hits the bumpstop (another thing people never take time to set up right) and check clearances then.
Here's a couple pics of my setup when I was looking at steering box clearance at full bump, full lock and then also looking at my bumpstop location. With stock bumpstops and stock springs the spring didn't hit the bumpstop until it was in a major negative arc. so I lowered them...
Suspension cycled at full bump to check how much to drop the bumpstop
Cycling
Tire test at full bump, full lock - it just clears. Bumpstops were set so there was still 1/2" clearance here with the rubber bumper compressed to 75% of it's original height.
This is what I am doing.
Never heard the "they wonder a bit" thing on heims - just that people think they wear too fast, or get worn, loose nasty too quickly in areas that have severe weather or salted roads. After talking to people who have run them here (Southern California) I will be running them.
Here's my stock dodge pitman arm (in my hand) compared to the Scout II (on the box) one I bought to try and clear the 4wd cross member a bit more.
After getting it, it seems the thing may be a bit too long (keep in mind a longer pitman arm will change your steering "quickness" ratio) and I'm now thinking I'm going to weld some platework on the end of the Dodge pitman arm to lengthen it and convert it to a double shear setup.
If you want to know for sure why not just cycle the suspension???? It always amazes me why people are too lazy to do things right. I know, I know it takes time... I cycled my setup a few times to check clearances on everything.
What you have to do is break the leaf pack down so just the main leaf is there, with a block of some sort underneath it to make up for the height of the removed leafs. Bolt the axle to the setup and jack the front end "up", compressing the front suspension until it hits the bumpstop (another thing people never take time to set up right) and check clearances then.
Here's a couple pics of my setup when I was looking at steering box clearance at full bump, full lock and then also looking at my bumpstop location. With stock bumpstops and stock springs the spring didn't hit the bumpstop until it was in a major negative arc. so I lowered them...
Suspension cycled at full bump to check how much to drop the bumpstop
Cycling
Tire test at full bump, full lock - it just clears. Bumpstops were set so there was still 1/2" clearance here with the rubber bumper compressed to 75% of it's original height.
After getting it, it seems the thing may be a bit too long (keep in mind a longer pitman arm will change your steering "quickness" ratio) and I'm now thinking I'm going to weld some platework on the end of the Dodge pitman arm to lengthen it and convert it to a double shear setup.
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