older transfer case swap into an '88 4x4
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older transfer case swap into an '88 4x4
Hey guys - question on F150 transfer case swaps between different years. I've done a few google searches and also searched this forum - still would like some clarification.
I'm about to drag home a 1988 F150 4x4 which has the M5OD and a BW 1356 transfer case (I checked the ID on the case & confirmed). The t-case is blown to bits - it has to be replaced (I'm not going to rebuild it).
I also have a 1984 4x4 F150 parts truck that has a C6 trans. I think it has the BW 1345 t-case, although I guess it could have an NP 208. The truck is in storage at a friend's house, so I will have to crawl up under it later this week & confirm which one it has.
The question is - will I be able to bolt whatever transfer case is on the '84 on the back of the M5OD in the '88 without any issues? I assume I will have to swap yokes between the trucks to make everything work - that is ok by me (if I remember correctly, the 1356 has a fixed front yoke & slip rear yoke, as would the NP 208 - while the 1345 would have fixed front & rear yokes.)
I'm trying to do all this on the cheap, without buying any extra parts. I'm getting the '88 for a song, and the '84 I've had for quite a while and am going to part it out soon anyway. Plus, I went to my local junkyard today and there wasn't a t-case in sight - must be in high demand.
Full disclosure on the two trucks:
1988 F150 - 4.9 EFI, M5OD, BW 1356 t-case, 3.55 gears, open 8.8 rear end, reg cab long bed, no AC, power nothing
1984 F150 - 351W carb, C6, unknown T-Case, 3.50 gears, LS 9 inch rear end, short bed, AC, body swapped with '87 cab and bed.
Thanks in advance and let know if you need any more info.
I'm about to drag home a 1988 F150 4x4 which has the M5OD and a BW 1356 transfer case (I checked the ID on the case & confirmed). The t-case is blown to bits - it has to be replaced (I'm not going to rebuild it).
I also have a 1984 4x4 F150 parts truck that has a C6 trans. I think it has the BW 1345 t-case, although I guess it could have an NP 208. The truck is in storage at a friend's house, so I will have to crawl up under it later this week & confirm which one it has.
The question is - will I be able to bolt whatever transfer case is on the '84 on the back of the M5OD in the '88 without any issues? I assume I will have to swap yokes between the trucks to make everything work - that is ok by me (if I remember correctly, the 1356 has a fixed front yoke & slip rear yoke, as would the NP 208 - while the 1345 would have fixed front & rear yokes.)
I'm trying to do all this on the cheap, without buying any extra parts. I'm getting the '88 for a song, and the '84 I've had for quite a while and am going to part it out soon anyway. Plus, I went to my local junkyard today and there wasn't a t-case in sight - must be in high demand.
Full disclosure on the two trucks:
1988 F150 - 4.9 EFI, M5OD, BW 1356 t-case, 3.55 gears, open 8.8 rear end, reg cab long bed, no AC, power nothing
1984 F150 - 351W carb, C6, unknown T-Case, 3.50 gears, LS 9 inch rear end, short bed, AC, body swapped with '87 cab and bed.
Thanks in advance and let know if you need any more info.
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try using crazedlist.org : search craigslist like a madman if you have modzilla firefox and www.craigslist.org if you don't... I usually find a couple hanging around the Iowa area for $50-$100. I have specific rebuild instructions if you want them too...
honestly the only issues I can think of with the NP-208 is not having a hole to stick the speedo cable in... I know my 88 F250 has a 1356 with a hole in the tail shaft for the old cable driven speedo... I don't know how the 84 will be set up... also the drive shaft hook ups will probably be a little different (length or spline count).
honestly the only issues I can think of with the NP-208 is not having a hole to stick the speedo cable in... I know my 88 F250 has a 1356 with a hole in the tail shaft for the old cable driven speedo... I don't know how the 84 will be set up... also the drive shaft hook ups will probably be a little different (length or spline count).
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I didn't even think about the speedo - Will have to check on the '84 and see what it has.
I have found a few t-cases on craigslist, but they are all $200 or more and I'm just trying to keep the costs down by using what I have. But, I may just end up buying the right one.
Good news: I crawled up under the '88 again (this time in the daylight) to discover that someone had swapped in a ZF 5-speed in place of the Mazda! I never have this kind of luck. Pretty excited about it.
I have found a few t-cases on craigslist, but they are all $200 or more and I'm just trying to keep the costs down by using what I have. But, I may just end up buying the right one.
Good news: I crawled up under the '88 again (this time in the daylight) to discover that someone had swapped in a ZF 5-speed in place of the Mazda! I never have this kind of luck. Pretty excited about it.
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I found bearing kits for about $85 bucks, but I'm not sure that the hard parts in the case are still ok. Previous owner said it started popping out of gear a couple of times, then completely shat itself with a loud crunch. Truck is immobile - the t-case spins free in any position.
At any rate, I picked up a rebuilt 1356 today for $200. Found it on craigslist, the guy seemed legit - he bought it with a fresh rebuild, put it in his E150 (4x4 swap) for a couple thousand miles, then pulled it back out to go with a doubler or something.
I checked it out and spun it in all positions - seems to be all there. I hope it works as good as it looks!
At least this way, I've still got the '84 complete if someone wants the rolling frame (I'm pilfering interior & body parts from '87 cab that's on it).
Thanks for the help.
At any rate, I picked up a rebuilt 1356 today for $200. Found it on craigslist, the guy seemed legit - he bought it with a fresh rebuild, put it in his E150 (4x4 swap) for a couple thousand miles, then pulled it back out to go with a doubler or something.
I checked it out and spun it in all positions - seems to be all there. I hope it works as good as it looks!
At least this way, I've still got the '84 complete if someone wants the rolling frame (I'm pilfering interior & body parts from '87 cab that's on it).
Thanks for the help.
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