Ok next question/ issue 1995 F250 4x4 3 bolt auto hubs
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Ok next question/ issue 1995 F250 4x4 3 bolt auto hubs
Due to a health issue, the fuel tank/ pump reassembly is on hold.... so while the windshield guy was here doing his thing, I decided to pull the auto hubs and clean them up and regrease them..
removed big clip, took one out, removed inner c clip... and the center won't come out of the outer part. Youtube vids I am following... guy said it was really hard to get it apart... he finally did, but didn't show how, just alot of prying and beating he said.
Am I missing another clip to remove? Or do I just need to soak them in something overnight? Will light heating them with my heat gun ruin the plastic part in there?
Guessing old cruddy grease has like a stiction type issue holding it in. Kinda like when 2 5galkon buckets get stuck together.
And Yes I know I should buy the conversion kit and manual hubs... but not in the budget right now...
thanks for any help you can give me
removed big clip, took one out, removed inner c clip... and the center won't come out of the outer part. Youtube vids I am following... guy said it was really hard to get it apart... he finally did, but didn't show how, just alot of prying and beating he said.
Am I missing another clip to remove? Or do I just need to soak them in something overnight? Will light heating them with my heat gun ruin the plastic part in there?
Guessing old cruddy grease has like a stiction type issue holding it in. Kinda like when 2 5galkon buckets get stuck together.
And Yes I know I should buy the conversion kit and manual hubs... but not in the budget right now...
thanks for any help you can give me
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Trying to get the 3 legged center out of the big hub... so far, tried prying with 2 screw drivers,, having it upside down and shock it with hammer. have filled it a few times with Brake kleen and engine degreaser... vids show it after he gets it apart and I don't see any more clips to remove...
in vid he does say I will question my sanity...
in vid he does say I will question my sanity...
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Here’s a few pics for you.
Once you get the circlip out from the center, it just needs to be lined up to pull out. There are two sets of splines in the outer hub portion, and three sets on the inner portion. Once they line up properly it will just slide out. It will probably come partially, then line up the others, and it will come out.. in stages.
Once it’s out, there is a bearing on the inner end of inner portion - it’s what holds against the circlip and holds it all together. There is also a wave spring in the outer hub part. You can see it in the last pic, if not you will understand / see when you get them separated.
Internal circlip.
Wave spring
Once you get the circlip out from the center, it just needs to be lined up to pull out. There are two sets of splines in the outer hub portion, and three sets on the inner portion. Once they line up properly it will just slide out. It will probably come partially, then line up the others, and it will come out.. in stages.
Once it’s out, there is a bearing on the inner end of inner portion - it’s what holds against the circlip and holds it all together. There is also a wave spring in the outer hub part. You can see it in the last pic, if not you will understand / see when you get them separated.
Internal circlip.
Wave spring
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Here is vid...
I actually got it apart after going nuclear on it...
Heat? No go
Hammer tapping? No go
prying with screwdrivers? No go
Soaked in brake kleenex, engine degreaser, gasoline? No go.... but may have helped in final success.
I got it by using air hammer under the 3 lugs, while holding hub in between my feet.
There is no other clip holding it in.
I don't think I damaged it scratching it up with air hammer, and I figured I would probably end up snapping off a lug, but they held.
if I snapped it off or cracked it, I would have been able to justify to Mrs. We needed new manual hubs
I am going to clean this all up, and repack it with grease and do same at spindle end... then do other side....
These hubs worked, but they seemed to be temperamental going in to or out of 4x4, I had to rock forward or backward, to get then to lock or unlock.
I am chasing down what feels to be a dragging feeling as I put truck in drive and go to pull away.
Possibly these hubs. I Gotta check to see if a caliper or rear shoes are dragging next.
Hopefully, this thread will help someone else, trying to get these hubs apart.
It will get manual hubs when I decide to do the spindle rebuild or need new rotors.
I actually got it apart after going nuclear on it...
Heat? No go
Hammer tapping? No go
prying with screwdrivers? No go
Soaked in brake kleenex, engine degreaser, gasoline? No go.... but may have helped in final success.
I got it by using air hammer under the 3 lugs, while holding hub in between my feet.
There is no other clip holding it in.
I don't think I damaged it scratching it up with air hammer, and I figured I would probably end up snapping off a lug, but they held.
if I snapped it off or cracked it, I would have been able to justify to Mrs. We needed new manual hubs
I am going to clean this all up, and repack it with grease and do same at spindle end... then do other side....
These hubs worked, but they seemed to be temperamental going in to or out of 4x4, I had to rock forward or backward, to get then to lock or unlock.
I am chasing down what feels to be a dragging feeling as I put truck in drive and go to pull away.
Possibly these hubs. I Gotta check to see if a caliper or rear shoes are dragging next.
Hopefully, this thread will help someone else, trying to get these hubs apart.
It will get manual hubs when I decide to do the spindle rebuild or need new rotors.
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yes the old dirty grease was pretty packed in there..
I used my high temp waterproof grease I use to grease dirtbike wheel bearings, put a good coating on everything, so not light coating, but definitely not over stuffed cupcake...
I have only had truck 2 weeks, and I am pretty sure as I go over it all, the wheel bearings and spindles will need to come apart again and be redone especially if I decide to put new rotors on it. More worried about calipers, they look rough.
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Special automatic hub grease? Never heard of it and I worked at a Ford dealership for several years in the 90’s. Do you know the Ford part number or what it is called so I can look it up?
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I have been using the Maxima blue stuff on everything including the manual hubs on my '17 F250.
That part number would be great to have, as I know these hubs are coming out again at somepoint In the near future as I go through this truck.
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I did go out and get a tube of the Moly Lithium and will re-do the 2 hub and do 2nd one with it... light coating.
The one question I still have is,
Once I take the hub body out of the hole, the ring it seats against inside, I am able to spin that left and right with a screwdriver.... is that ring supposed to be tight? Or move like that? If I understand it right there is a bigger nut behind it that is tight to hold bearing and stuff in. ( this ring i think is the one that gets replaced with the 3 piece rings when i convert to manual hubs)
The one question I still have is,
Once I take the hub body out of the hole, the ring it seats against inside, I am able to spin that left and right with a screwdriver.... is that ring supposed to be tight? Or move like that? If I understand it right there is a bigger nut behind it that is tight to hold bearing and stuff in. ( this ring i think is the one that gets replaced with the 3 piece rings when i convert to manual hubs)
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