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Old 04-28-2011, 10:45 PM
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Ok guys I live in Ontario and wanted a 6.9L so bad for the simplicity and inexpensive repairs but finding an IDI 6.9L or 7.3L that is not a rust bucket is impossible in Ontario

If I was to buy a powerstroke it would have to be a 2wd 5spd srw

Is it worth it to spend the money on a 2000 instead of a 1986 6.9L ?

If I got a 2000 I'd need 37s and decent horse power and torque to haul my tires my motorcycle and I drive 2hours everyday all highway so good fuel economy

Is that possible ?
 
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Old 04-29-2011, 03:27 AM
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I don't know much about the 6.9 but the 7.3's are about 250 HP 400ft lbs of tq stock which can easily be modded to get about 200 to 250 hp and 500 to 700 ft lbs of tq.

Pulling things is not a problem and if you're only going to be getting a 2wd that makes it even better because there is less weight and the truck is typically lower which means less wind drag.

My 4X4 which has a stock suspension will average about 20 on the hwy if I keep it at 2K rpm or lower. for every 100 rpm or so above 2100 rpm I go I drop about 1 mpg but.

I also pull a 28ft boat during the summer that weighs in at 7500 lbs. At 55 to 60 I get 11 to 13 mpg, at 65 to 70 I get about 11. Keep in mind I live in the mountain and am pulling hills here and there.

If you do a few mods on your truck then good fuel economy isn't an issue considering the weight and size of the vehicle, but if you're looking for 30 mpg+ then you may want a car for your commuting.
 
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Old 04-29-2011, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Builtihtuff
If I got a 2000 I'd need 37s and decent horse power and torque to haul my tires my motorcycle and I drive 2hours everyday all highway so good fuel economy

Is that possible ?
I'm curious why you "need" 37's. The extra weight of those tires is going to hurt your fuel economy. Plus, to fit them, you'll have to lift the truck up, negating the fuel economy advantage of the lower stance of a 2WD. Since the grand majority of SRW trucks came with 3.73s, your "need" for 37s will throw off your gearing as well.

Sorry if I seem a little harsh, but "want" and "need" are very different. Guys that work 4,000 acres with lots of rock trails could need 37s. Highway rollers do not. If you're looking for good fuel economy, I'd suggest you re-examine your wants versus needs in a truck. I think trucks with big tires looks awesome, up to a point. But I'm also sure that 95%+ of them are strictly an ego/looks thing. Nothing wrong with that, just be real about it.

I want 18" wheels for my tuck, but I need to make my mortgage payment, so I leave my 16's with good tires in place. See the difference?

My truck with 3.73s, automatic, and 4x4 gets the best mileage with 33's (285/75R16s), fresh oil & filters, and an easy right foot. All highway means that I can get 20mpg... depending on the wind.

A newer truck will typically mean better creature comforts as well as functionality due to the evolution of the model. A 2000 F250/F350 will have a 6 speed tranny as well, just so you know. Stock HP & torque will EASILY haul a couple motorcycles, even if they are the top end monster touring bikes (Goldwing/Full Dresser/etc.). An intake, full 4" exhaust, and good tuner with gauges will make it more pleasant to drive.
 
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Old 04-29-2011, 07:12 AM
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Well your right the 37s would not be for about 2 years I plan on having it a long time I was hoping to roll on 33s at the smallest but yes I do know where you are coming from... What I need is 2wd not 4 and a 6 sp is much better in my opinion I lobe shifting lol I'll never own a dang auto no offense I'm a young kid ubcan see why with 37 I'd be getting ahead of myself and I just like trucks I'm taking some Pre apprenticeship courses starting in September for diesel tech and I want a diesel truck for that commute which is 2h and my gf lives 2h away it's a lot of driving. As for up and torque I'd want 300 hp 700 torque and yes that's an ego thing is that a realistic number if I want 20mpg ?
 
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:24 AM
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Lol ahhhh someone reply to me
 
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300HP/700TQ won't be hard to reach, but the 20mpg will be VERY dependent upon your right foot. Keep it under 2000rpm (~68mph with 3.73s) and you should be able to get 20mpg. You mention diesel tech school - if you're going to WyoTech then you'll have to deal with the wind, which can heavily affect your mileage.
 
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I have no idea what wyo tech is I have a feeling it's in wyoming I'm from Ontario. Canada bro I'd be at centennial college and the Canadian trades academy. My big thing is fuel and speed that will tow my motorcycles when I need it too and my bikes from here to California

Would u all recommend a 2000 powerstroke over a idi that's my big question and I don't under how gear ratios effect fuel and towing
 
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Old 04-29-2011, 02:10 PM
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I doubt you will get 20 MPG with bigger tires.

The 7.3 powerstroke is very different than a 6.9 / 7.3 IDI.

A while back i saw a 1990 7.3 IDI for 2000$, and it only had 220,000kms on it.
 
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Was that in Ontario though ? And was it single rear wheel I'd think newer diesels like powerstrokes would have so many upgrades that it would have 20mpg no problem
 
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I have both an IDI and a few powerstrokes. By far a 6.9 with a stick will be the least problems to fix. I am always fixing something on my newer trucks. The trick is to find a good 6.9 with a turbo. Try in the IDI forum. They might have some ideas. I think Dave the moderator has both. He might be able to tell you about fuel mileage.
 
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Old 04-30-2011, 07:17 AM
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I was in the idi forums before I was in here But because there are not many idi in ontario I have been looking for a powerstroke instead I'd love a 2000 powerstroke with a front clip of a 2005 mmm lol
 
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How would it work if you bought a truck from out of the country? Expensive to do?
 
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Old 04-30-2011, 09:56 AM
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its very easy to import to canada. problem is that it takes 3 days of waiting for paperwork to clear after you buy it.
 
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The 3 days and not knowing how to do it is not my issue the issue is how do I buy a vehicle I can't see in the states except for pictures... How do I know I'm not getting f'ed ?
 
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Well...most people in The northern part of the states that have IDI's up for sale(myself included) are not gonna try and rip you off. I know the in's and outs of these old IDI's, they will get smoked by a stroke when it coems to speed. But I know that these old IDI's can get 22 mpg with a 4x4 version(thats what I get in mine). I know that these engines, once a turbo is added to the engine, it will bring the HP up to 220 at least. and with at least 450-470 torque(stock HP is 170 for 6.9, 180 for 7.3 IDI, Torque is 395 and 415 retrospectively). Add a turbo to a 6.9 or a 7.3 wakes the engine up a lot. I know a few guys in the IDI section that can help you more than I can because I'm overseas in Iraq at the moment. send IDIDieseljohn a PM, he can help you a lot.
 


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