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Old 04-04-2011, 08:09 PM
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{Spartan} 250 tune

What do you guys who are using or have used think/feel about the 250??
I had it on for about a week and about 1700kms and switched back to the 210 today.
It seems like the tranny and the motor arent on the same page. Shifts up, down shifts (tires break free). I understand the hard shifting is for a reason but I just dont like it.Oh and the idle when cold or when temp is cold (4*c and lower)is wonky. I did kind of enjoy the black smoke though, must be the rebel in me .
I also had the 175 loaded before the 250 for a couple days...didnt last long, the lag was almost as bad as stock.
The 210 is the sweet spot, awesome power, smooth almost unoticable shifting and idles fine.

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Old 04-04-2011, 08:27 PM
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well I tried the 210 tow.. harsh shift.. and now on the 250.. don't like the early converter lockup.. had the 210 on before the 250.. seemed mild... have to try it again..

looking for mileage.. spartan says 275.. haven't tried that yet

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Old 04-04-2011, 10:16 PM
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The 275 is a great tune and the shifts get much better after you drive it for awhile. The 300 is also really good as the MPG is very close (pretty much the same) as the 275 but the shifts are much better. To me it's really a toss up between the 2 as to which I like better. In the past I have also towed with the 275 without issue but don't think I would attempt that with the 300.
 
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Hey Sam, I should clarify I am referring to the 210 reg NOT the 210 tow. The reg 210 is great. How do you like the shifts in the 250? How are they compared to the 210tow? My highest is the 250, I dont have the 275+ to try... And I seriously doubt ill load the 250 again.
 
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Old 04-05-2011, 04:22 AM
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Sorry longview I didn't realize you only had tunes up to the 250.
 
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Old 04-05-2011, 10:14 AM
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Ya, I'd like to give the higher ones a try but just not in the budget right now.
I just spent 4 days in Edmonton and at that friggin mall....
 
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Does the tranny have to go through the re-learn process each time you change the tune? I have read that the Spartan is "OK" with the stock TCM but is best suited when you buy Spartans TCM.
 
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Does the tranny have to go through the re-learn process each time you change the tune? I have read that the Spartan is "OK" with the stock TCM but is best suited when you buy Spartans TCM.
The higher tunes require a relearn.

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the latest update is now available, and the 275 tune is now included for all level 1 licenses. they say they have fixed the harsh shifting on the 250 and up tunes.

downloading now..

logon to the spartan site with your userid/pw and select 'update tuner' from the right menu

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Thanks for the heads up Sam. I left my hotel room with it downloading on laptop. Hope to get home and try em out! So you're saying il have the 275 now?! If so, sweet!
 
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Thanks for the heads up Sam. I left my hotel room with it downloading on laptop. Hope to get home and try em out! So you're saying il have the 275 now?! If so, sweet!
Correct, I just downloaded it myself yesterday. I am liking the 275 more each time I drive my truck.
 
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Well I loaded the 275 today, did a couple 0-60mphs and diff throttle %.
Couple things I noticed, first when I went WOT at a roll I looked at dash and saw the boost was pegged (40psi) but didnt get a chance to look at the dashdaq.
I noticed also when it shifts from 3rd to 4th I believe it is, its like it falls right off-like shifting a manual from 2nd gear to 5th for example. The first couple shifts are pretty firm but rest are pretty nice. Im going to give it a few days and see what it does.
 
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Well I loaded the 275 today, did a couple 0-60mphs and diff throttle %.
Couple things I noticed, first when I went WOT at a roll I looked at dash and saw the boost was pegged (40psi) but didnt get a chance to look at the dashdaq.
I noticed also when it shifts from 3rd to 4th I believe it is, its like it falls right off-like shifting a manual from 2nd gear to 5th for example. The first couple shifts are pretty firm but rest are pretty nice. Im going to give it a few days and see what it does.
the converter locks at 45mph. too soon in my opinion. ok for highway, but too soon for the rest of the time..

I'm gonna try the 210tow today.

Sam
 
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Remember that the tranny needs to relearn too, and you need to give it some time after loading the tune to get the shifting down...

I did up my buddy's '08 early build Job1 F350 with a Spartan package (he has their TCM too) and the 275HP has always been his favorite tune, especially for the mileage.

He's been driving the snot out of the latest update and couldn't be happier with it compared to the previous versions. He puts crazy miles on his truck and does a quasi-relearn (can't do the whole thing because he'd need new tires every time he retuned!) so his shifting is only going to get better. Give it some time, but remember with his HP tunes the tranny's line pressure needs to be increased or it's just gonna slip the tranny until it lunches it. Another thing too, traction bars at the higher HP tunes aren't an option; they're a requirement! (He's got his, I'm waiting on mine...)
 
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the converter locks at 45mph. too soon in my opinion. ok for highway, but too soon for the rest of the time..

I'm gonna try the 210tow today.

Sam
210tow is ok, but I liked the 250 better.. now I need to find a new filter kit..

Sam
 

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