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Old 03-25-2011, 03:36 PM
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65 F100 4x4 got for parts only turns DD project

This is a thread to update progress on the other 4x4 project that I should have my head examined for. For even considering. Pics of what I started with.








I will update as I make progress towards getting it back on the road. I have been doing some work on it. Trying to get siezed up motor to turn so far nada. Got some fenders primed and pushed out some dents and got some usuable doors on it. I will take pics this weekend and post. Also got the right front manual hub freed up. Left manual hub still not turning. Im thinking the motor will have to be pulled. Ill drop the oil pan and look at the bottom end this weekend. Tried to drain the oil and got about 1/2 gallon of water out of the pan. Got the hub and rear axel studs all free without breaking any. Got the worn out seat out and got the trans cover screws all out. Picked up another gas tank as the one in the truck is very rusty. Thats about it so far.
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Not much progress made but some. First I had a few used doors lying around not in the best shape but they open and close and keep the water and weather out.




Got the oil pan off connecting rods and crank main caps dont look to bad for having about a quart of water or more in the pan. One of the con rods has a slight discoloration not sure what that is all about and I can see a little rust at bottom of some of the piston skirts.




Next I removed the seat and got the trans cover removed installed a trans cover and shifter from a two wheel drive NP435 trans. I found out that the shifters in 2 wheel drive and 4x4 are shaped differently. The 2 wheel drive shifter is bent to be closer to the driver and interfers with the trans case shifter. I do have a later model 435 that I picked up and the shift lever looks to be straighter so I will see if it will go in.

First the removed seat. Talk about your original bucket seat. That thing stunk glad to get it out of the truck. Dont want to even think about where or why it stunk like that.


Trans cover off and trans as I got it. Next pic is the new cover and 2 wheel drive shifter in place. Interfers with TFC shifter so has to be changed again.




Next Ive done some quick knock up on some body panels primed and ready to go when the truck gets some go power again. Keep in mind I said quick taping just to get major dent removed. Better job later. This is just to make a driver out of it.




More rain today so I will sand and prime a few more body parts that should keep me busy for a while. Ill probably check that shifter situation out too.
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What did you change your mind on this one? I thought you were going to do this one after your F250?

That much water in the engine is bad news. How did it get in the engine? Did it get in thru the valve cover breather hole? I think it might be a good idea to pull the valve covers too. And to try and free it up you might want to try what I've done in the past. I pull the plugs and dump a mixture of Diesel fuel and ATF into the cylinders and put the plugs back in and let it soak for a few days. Then pull the plugs back out and try to turn the engine over with a breaker bar.


That cab looks really solid on that truck!

Good luck with the multiple projects! I'm subscribing to this build post!
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No Ted just quickly getting this one up and running. Kind of a daily driver and fixeruper. I plan to flat bed it or something. The work on the F250 continues just saving up for a welder so I can get going on some heavier body work on that one. I got the 65 for parts but plans changed as they sometimes do. I also found out today that a wrong box bed that I purchased from a wrecked 63 more than 20 years ago to make a matching trailer to pull behind the 63 may still be there if so I might put it on the 65 and keep it somewhat as it was manufactured dont know yet. Depends on if that box is still there and what kind of shape it is in. Ill keep this project posted on that. Well thats my story and Im sticking to it.
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Oh yeah I am going to try the diesel fuel and trans fluid concoction Ill see if that works nothing else seems to. I do have another 352 haning around that I saved for 20yrs its been in the corner of my garage just waiting for a new home. It may have found one. Not to much longer and Im going to yank the old one and in with the newer one. Its got about 10,000 miles on a rebuild so should be a runner so Im not to concerned. Now thats my story and Im really done and wouldnt change it if you paid me.
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Ok AYB Ill try to keep it interesting. So hang on. Iv got some $60 chrome wheels off of Craigslist now just looking for some cheap tires. The wheels are 15x8 five star type chromes.They are a little ruff but not to bad usable to start anyway. Tires will be 31-33 10.5-12.5 mudders. Rear gear in the truck is a 3.50 so that size tire should be a good match. More later.
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?Wrong bed I bought for parts 20years ago is gone. Imagine that. Probably sold for scrap or resold to someone else. Looks like the flatbed is still the way Im going.
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Ted I got the fuel and TM fluid mixture put into the cylinders. Pulled the passanger side valve cover no rust on the top end. The water that came out of the pan was clear no hint of antifreeze inless it separted into the oil. Cracked block or blown cylinder wall or wrist pin through the cylinder is not out of the question. If this does not do it I will change motors. Then I can get the one that is in the truck rebuilt if thats what it needs.
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Bummer about the bed being gone.

The top end not being rusted is a good sign. Hopefully the diesel/atf mixture will work it's magic and free up the pistons/rings.
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Keeping my fingers crossed as the weather here is not very condusive to changing a motor outside just yet. Still alot of rain and cloudy windy weather. If that concoction does not work I may pull the heads but not go much further than that before pulling the motor. Well see.
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Keeping my fingers crossed as the weather here is not very condusive to changing a motor outside just yet. Still alot of rain and cloudy windy weather. If that concoction does not work I may pull the heads but not go much further than that before pulling the motor. Well see.

The diesel/atf mix probably won't do much if it's seized up due to a mechanical issue or if it's got a lot of rust/crap in the cylinders. But if it's just seized from sitting it usually works pretty good.

If it doesn't free up then pulling the heads would be a very good idea. Then you can see how bad it actually is. Not to mention you're engine hoist will thank you for removing a big chunk of weight off the engine when you do pull it. Those heads and intake aren't light!!
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Yup I read somewhere those FEs go close to 700lbs fully dressed. With the intake and heads removed probably lose about to 200 lbs. Forgot to add the exhaust manifolds that would probably be another 50lbs or so.
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Yea it's a royal pain trying to lift one of those intakes off of an assembled truck. I don't remember exactly but I believe the intake by itself was 75 or 80 lbs. I made that mistake once. After that if I had to remove the intake I used the engine hoist!

At least you've got the fenders and inner fenders out of the way! If you tear it down just don't hurt yourself!
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I did a little work on the 65 last night. I got the 2 barrel carb removed as well as the intake manifold and the right side exhaust manifold. The exhaust manifold slowed me down as I was trying to get it off without breaking the bolts or cracking the manifold. Only broke off two bolts both on the second exhaust port back. Trying to drop the manifold with broken bolts inside of the bolt holes was a little bit of a stuggle. Ill get some pics and more parts removed this weekend sometime. Youve probably all seen tear downs of dirty big block motors before.
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