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Possible to install engine w. transmission and transfer case?

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Old 01-16-2016, 12:58 PM
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Possible to install engine w. transmission and transfer case?

First time poster long time reader. I pulled the engine on my new to me 1995 F150 302 4wd to reseal it, fix broken exhaust manifold bolts etc. It seems the manual 5 speed (M50D-R2) has been leaking a lot and had the whine that seems to be typical when they have been running with low oil level. I found another transmission to swap in.

So now my question is what is the easiest way to put it back together. Is it possible to mount transmission with transfer case to the engine and install from the top or keep engine separate and put transmission from below and engine from the top like normal?

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Old 01-16-2016, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by kfsorensen
First time poster long time reader. I pulled the engine on my new to me 1995 F150 302 4wd to reseal it, fix broken exhaust manifold bolts etc. It seems the manual 5 speed (M50D-R2) has been leaking a lot and had the whine that seems to be typical when they have been running with low oil level. I found another transmission to swap in.

So now my question is what is the easiest way to put it back together. Is it possible to mount transmission with transfer case to the engine and install from the top or keep engine separate and put transmission from below and engine from the top like normal?

Kurt
With 4wd I have found it easier to install motor and trans together then put the transfer case in after the two is bolted in.

What trans did you happen to get? Would have been a perfect time to swap in a small block zf
 
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Rebuilt Tranny in Pit for install
 
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Old 01-16-2016, 02:56 PM
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Personally I would install the engine, then trans, then t-case,
 
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That is great input! I guess if installing engine and trans together it will have to be raised pretty high to get it angled down there. Is that why you recommend doing them one at a time Diesel Brad?

@75Three90: I did read up on the ZF trans but I'll keep it simple and stay with the "Mazda" trans for now.
 
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Sure Puddy, I'll do that when I get a nice pit like that!
 
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Originally Posted by kfsorensen
That is great input! I guess if installing engine and trans together it will have to be raised pretty high to get it angled down there. Is that why you recommend doing them one at a time Diesel Brad?
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That and the trans bolted to the engine just has you dragging it across everything
 
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Old 01-16-2016, 03:50 PM
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BTW, not having worked on one of these things before, where is the best place to separate the transfer case from the transmission? Split transmission/T-extension or split between extension and t-case?
 
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Just take the transfer case off. What you are calling an extension is the tailshaft housing, it's part of the trans.

As far as leaving the trans or both on the engine, I pulled the engine, trans and transfer case out of my Bronco without separating them. I had an overhead hoist that was a lot taller than most engine hoists I've seen. It was a ROYAL pain, tipping it all up on end to snake it out, then lifting the transfer case up so it would clear everything coming out. I'm with Brad, do the engine alone, then the trans and transfer case separately from underneath.
 
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Originally Posted by Diesel_Brad
Personally I would install the engine, then trans, then t-case,
The only way to go. You van do it with the trans attached, but it's not really worth the extra hassle. As for the transfer case, that would be really long and awkward.
 
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Thanks for the advice! I just got the "new" trans yesterday, so I will get the shift rail plugs re-sealed and get it all ready. We'll see how it goes.
 
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