turbo ????
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turbo ????
ok my bday is comeing up soon and i am trying to talk my family in to helping buy a turbo for my truck. i dont no wat all i need to look for. i found a bunch on ebay thanks to snapons thread but im confused on wat could be missing or wat all i need, here are the ones im looking at
Banks Turbo system 6.9-7.3 IDI - eBay (item 280645709190 end time Mar-24-11 14:54:44 PDT)
ford 6.9 7.3 banks turbo kit - eBay (item 190514729846 end time Mar-27-11 18:43:46 PDT)
6.9&7.3 IDI diesel turbo kit - eBay (item 270723526138 end time Mar-27-11 19:54:38 PDT)
Ats factory ford turbo for 6.9-7.3 diesel - eBay (item 280647623850 end time Mar-28-11 08:31:53 PDT)
ATS Turbo System. 83-94 Ford 6.9 7.3 Diesel. Complete - eBay (item 250793017390 end time Apr-01-11 17:15:13 PDT)
Banks Turbo system 6.9-7.3 IDI - eBay (item 280645709190 end time Mar-24-11 14:54:44 PDT)
ford 6.9 7.3 banks turbo kit - eBay (item 190514729846 end time Mar-27-11 18:43:46 PDT)
6.9&7.3 IDI diesel turbo kit - eBay (item 270723526138 end time Mar-27-11 19:54:38 PDT)
Ats factory ford turbo for 6.9-7.3 diesel - eBay (item 280647623850 end time Mar-28-11 08:31:53 PDT)
ATS Turbo System. 83-94 Ford 6.9 7.3 Diesel. Complete - eBay (item 250793017390 end time Apr-01-11 17:15:13 PDT)
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The first Banks system and the last ATS system are the only ones I looked at. They both seem to be fairly complete.
ATS and Banks have pictures on their websites that show complete systems. Newer systems are easier to find but use basically the same but not identical parts.
A waste gated system is preferred if it can be found. I and many others have no problems with a non waste gated system.
ATS and Banks have pictures on their websites that show complete systems. Newer systems are easier to find but use basically the same but not identical parts.
A waste gated system is preferred if it can be found. I and many others have no problems with a non waste gated system.
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The last one is a factory turbo with a tiny downpipe, from what I remember, I thought you had a factory turbo? I also see some compression wheel damage on it too so stay away. I would go with the second banks turbo myself or look in the classifieds, jamy duty is selling his complete banks kit for 1K, thats one good deal if you ask me, id be jumping all over it.
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I don't have any experance with the banks turbos, so can't help there. The first factory turbo has the 3'' down pipe byt why he welded it in is beyond me. It doesn't have the valve cover to relocate the cdr in the pic, might ask if it is included. The second one, I'll agree with snapon, it looks like it has some damage to the wheel.
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Like Snapon mentioned i still a complete kit for sell, check it out and if you have any questions give me a call.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...der-turbo.html
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...der-turbo.html
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Which one is better, the ATS or the Banks? I thought I read on here that the Banks is supposed to put out 10-15 HP more. Has anyone driven each to compare?
Thanks in advance, I'm looking to pick up a93 w/Banks.
Thanks in advance, I'm looking to pick up a93 w/Banks.
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I have driven both and honestly i cannot tell the difference. The banks seemed to spool a little faster and i believe that is due the ram air and the bigger down pipe. The ats i have is the stock setup, very restrictive intake and smashed down pipe don't let it breathe very well. I have never had an issue with either.
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the first banks kit with the big air box is a non waste gated unit, and it will pretty much limit boost to around 10-11 lbs.
the second banks unit is a waste gated unit, and boost can be made to go as high as 15+lbs if you fiddle with the waste gate. with the first one, you will not cause damage due to overboosting.
with the second one, you can very easily blow head gaskets due to overboosting if you fiddle with the wast gate.
the second banks unit is a waste gated unit, and boost can be made to go as high as 15+lbs if you fiddle with the waste gate. with the first one, you will not cause damage due to overboosting.
with the second one, you can very easily blow head gaskets due to overboosting if you fiddle with the wast gate.
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I don't have any experance with the banks turbos, so can't help there. The first factory turbo has the 3'' down pipe byt why he welded it in is beyond me. It doesn't have the valve cover to relocate the cdr in the pic, might ask if it is included. The second one, I'll agree with snapon, it looks like it has some damage to the wheel.
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Im just going to say boost is boost, how fast can you generate it and can it be sustained. Doesnt matter the brand. It could be food club brand and if it can push higher boost numbers faster, then it would be more powerful than a banks, or ATS or or or etc.
Out of all those kits, id stay away from them all but the first one. The sidewinder looks the most solid out of that grouping.
Hypermax guy is compensating with the GP's and **** to cover up something missing or broken.
ATS guys seem to be in **** shape. Ones is a Junk yard dog, from the numbers written on it and looks like someone sawed off the flange fitting of the stock housing and welded on a 3" pipe, that is NOT the slip fit version. NOT. The other ATS is pretty rough in the wheel as stated.
The banks of old seems okay but with no pic of the wheel, i wouldnt get close.
Out of all those kits, id stay away from them all but the first one. The sidewinder looks the most solid out of that grouping.
Hypermax guy is compensating with the GP's and **** to cover up something missing or broken.
ATS guys seem to be in **** shape. Ones is a Junk yard dog, from the numbers written on it and looks like someone sawed off the flange fitting of the stock housing and welded on a 3" pipe, that is NOT the slip fit version. NOT. The other ATS is pretty rough in the wheel as stated.
The banks of old seems okay but with no pic of the wheel, i wouldnt get close.
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Im just going to say boost is boost, how fast can you generate it and can it be sustained. Doesnt matter the brand. It could be food club brand and if it can push higher boost numbers faster, then it would be more powerful than a banks, or ATS or or or etc.
Out of all those kits, id stay away from them all but the first one. The sidewinder looks the most solid out of that grouping.
Hypermax guy is compensating with the GP's and **** to cover up something missing or broken.
ATS guys seem to be in **** shape. Ones is a Junk yard dog, from the numbers written on it and looks like someone sawed off the flange fitting of the stock housing and welded on a 3" pipe, that is NOT the slip fit version. NOT. The other ATS is pretty rough in the wheel as stated.
The banks of old seems okay but with no pic of the wheel, i wouldnt get close.
Out of all those kits, id stay away from them all but the first one. The sidewinder looks the most solid out of that grouping.
Hypermax guy is compensating with the GP's and **** to cover up something missing or broken.
ATS guys seem to be in **** shape. Ones is a Junk yard dog, from the numbers written on it and looks like someone sawed off the flange fitting of the stock housing and welded on a 3" pipe, that is NOT the slip fit version. NOT. The other ATS is pretty rough in the wheel as stated.
The banks of old seems okay but with no pic of the wheel, i wouldnt get close.
this is the most inteligent statement i have heard about turbos in a long time!!
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Im just going to say boost is boost, how fast can you generate it and can it be sustained. Doesnt matter the brand. It could be food club brand and if it can push higher boost numbers faster, then it would be more powerful than a banks, or ATS or or or etc.
Out of all those kits, id stay away from them all but the first one. The sidewinder looks the most solid out of that grouping.
Hypermax guy is compensating with the GP's and **** to cover up something missing or broken.
ATS guys seem to be in **** shape. Ones is a Junk yard dog, from the numbers written on it and looks like someone sawed off the flange fitting of the stock housing and welded on a 3" pipe, that is NOT the slip fit version. NOT. The other ATS is pretty rough in the wheel as stated.
The banks of old seems okay but with no pic of the wheel, i wouldnt get close.
Out of all those kits, id stay away from them all but the first one. The sidewinder looks the most solid out of that grouping.
Hypermax guy is compensating with the GP's and **** to cover up something missing or broken.
ATS guys seem to be in **** shape. Ones is a Junk yard dog, from the numbers written on it and looks like someone sawed off the flange fitting of the stock housing and welded on a 3" pipe, that is NOT the slip fit version. NOT. The other ATS is pretty rough in the wheel as stated.
The banks of old seems okay but with no pic of the wheel, i wouldnt get close.
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Ohhh **** my bad, honestly it just came across that way and my gut tells me look elsewhere. Lack of pics as well, sorry dyoung, didnt mean harm. anonymity of the interwebs always gets me in trouble! I was just picking apart the beasties. In my year long hunt for a turbo, with all the scammers i came across, i was just skeptical. If its from a guy/girl on this forum, id buy it on his/her word, not snapons, but anyone elses! lol. j/k
TJC, you being sarcastic? lol
TJC, you being sarcastic? lol