max trailer tow/ecoboost/mpg
#32
excaliber551, I'm sorry but you're wrong. Do you honestly believe Ford DOESN'T test every single part that goes into their trucks? Why would they want all the lawsuits, warranty repairs (they have a 5 yr/60k drivetrain warranty) and bad PR that would come with over-rating their vehicles? Just so they can have a little marketing point (highest tow rating)? F150s are only rated a few hundred lbs. higher than their competitors, anyway. Anyone who has looked at new trucks could tell you that.
I've towed my 30' camper with my '10 F150 CC 5.4L and it is far more stable and less taxed than my company vehicle - a '02 Chevy 2500HD - pulling the same weight. The Chevy does very well (especially considering its age), but the F150 is better in every way. It's one of the best towing trucks I've driven and I have towed with a lot of trucks. And towing around where I live is about as bad as it gets. No, I wouldn't pull MORE than 11,300 lbs. with my truck, but I would have no problem doing it all day long. I have far more faith in FoMoCo and their engineers than your buddy who services vehicles at a dealership.
Anyway, I personally think the OP made a great choice. I'm sure the 3.73s with the EB engine will make an excellent combo. And I'm jealous that you can order electronic-locking diffs in the '11 Lariats (no so for '10).
I've towed my 30' camper with my '10 F150 CC 5.4L and it is far more stable and less taxed than my company vehicle - a '02 Chevy 2500HD - pulling the same weight. The Chevy does very well (especially considering its age), but the F150 is better in every way. It's one of the best towing trucks I've driven and I have towed with a lot of trucks. And towing around where I live is about as bad as it gets. No, I wouldn't pull MORE than 11,300 lbs. with my truck, but I would have no problem doing it all day long. I have far more faith in FoMoCo and their engineers than your buddy who services vehicles at a dealership.
Anyway, I personally think the OP made a great choice. I'm sure the 3.73s with the EB engine will make an excellent combo. And I'm jealous that you can order electronic-locking diffs in the '11 Lariats (no so for '10).
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Thanks powerkid! Wow, that's an awesome number. I will definetly keep the EB 150 in mind for future needs.
There is no doubt the EB150 can manage those weights ocassionally. I would like to point out that excessive or continous operations at max rated weights will lead to premature failure of life limited parts.This would go for any truck! 150/250/350 and so on.
Most of the parts on our trucks are life limited meaning they will only last for a given number of years. Now before the bashing begins let me offer proof to support this agrument.
Turbofan engines designed by General Electric and Pratt& Whitney are also rated to produce maximum thrust. For arguments sake lets say this is the same as the max weight we can tow. Most operators of these engine do not operate them at max thrust unless necessary for aircraft performance. They instead operate the engines at ratings far lower than max. The reason....the GE& P+W engineers have determined that operations at lower power settings will prolong engine and engine components. The science of metal fatigue, stress, etc is there and I believe the same applies to trucks and the vast majority of their components. The more you run them at max anything the quicker the problems will show up.
The above information can be found by a simple search on the internet. Google assumed temperature takeoffs or de-rated takeoffs.
Let the bashing begin.
There is no doubt the EB150 can manage those weights ocassionally. I would like to point out that excessive or continous operations at max rated weights will lead to premature failure of life limited parts.This would go for any truck! 150/250/350 and so on.
Most of the parts on our trucks are life limited meaning they will only last for a given number of years. Now before the bashing begins let me offer proof to support this agrument.
Turbofan engines designed by General Electric and Pratt& Whitney are also rated to produce maximum thrust. For arguments sake lets say this is the same as the max weight we can tow. Most operators of these engine do not operate them at max thrust unless necessary for aircraft performance. They instead operate the engines at ratings far lower than max. The reason....the GE& P+W engineers have determined that operations at lower power settings will prolong engine and engine components. The science of metal fatigue, stress, etc is there and I believe the same applies to trucks and the vast majority of their components. The more you run them at max anything the quicker the problems will show up.
The above information can be found by a simple search on the internet. Google assumed temperature takeoffs or de-rated takeoffs.
Let the bashing begin.
#36
It is common sense that operating anything near its max, it will fail faster. No argument there. Doesn't matter if its an engine, turbo, or a transistor in an amplifier that is being operated at it's maximum output.
I will say however that if the ecoboost survived the torture tests including the 24 hours around the NASCAR track- towing max load at WOT it can handle anything that any of us here throw at it- unless we purposely try to destroy it or don't maintain it properly
I will say however that if the ecoboost survived the torture tests including the 24 hours around the NASCAR track- towing max load at WOT it can handle anything that any of us here throw at it- unless we purposely try to destroy it or don't maintain it properly
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#39
I can tell you in a couple of weeks....bought one yesterday. EcoBoost with the 3.73 and max tow. Pick it up next week.
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ok, cause i have been doing several build and prices on ford direct, and the xl with all the extra power packages etc. is about 3200 bucks less than an xlt. but i was wondering about the rear windows so i did some dealer searches for xl's with the power packages and some of the dealers had pictures on their websights that showed four window switches on the drivers door so i hoped that thay would be operable. i guess i'll have to see one in person to make sure. thanks!
#45
I have the 3.73 gears with 157" wheelbase and max tow pkg. I average 14.5 around town and highway i average 17.5. Towing my camper(5500lbs) i got a best of 12.3. Certainly not what they advertised but i have absolutely no complaints about this truck !! It certainly gets better mpg than my old 2007 F150 with 5.4L and feels like it has twice the power!!