a real econoline steering fix!
#527
Just wanted to add another endorsement of the Hellwig 7183 sway bar kit. I put one on my 2012 E350 extended last week and the difference is remarkable. It drives like a car now, albeit a 19.5-foot-long car. Loaded it up this afternoon (after I finished installing the new seats, but there’ll be a new thread about that real soon) and went out looking for curves I could take too fast to see how it handled under load. Dang nice is how. Looking forward to the next road trip.
#528
New to the forum
Hi, guys! A lot of information in that thread, thanks a lot!
I red about the steering damper installation here some time ago but didn't do the reading through entire thread. Ordered a moog kit and was surprised it didn't mount to the frame like the OEM. I'm thinking about building a bracket and mounting one end to it (and the frame myself). Should work the same just better. Or I'm totally wrong and it will destroy the the steering or something? Is it gonna blow?
Needed to edit, spelling mistakes
I red about the steering damper installation here some time ago but didn't do the reading through entire thread. Ordered a moog kit and was surprised it didn't mount to the frame like the OEM. I'm thinking about building a bracket and mounting one end to it (and the frame myself). Should work the same just better. Or I'm totally wrong and it will destroy the the steering or something? Is it gonna blow?
Needed to edit, spelling mistakes
#529
Hi, guys! A lot of information in that thread, thanks a lot!
I red about the steering damper installation here some time ago but didn't do the reading through entire thread. Ordered a moog kit and was surprised it didn't mount to the frame like the OEM. I'm thinking about building a bracket and mounting one end to it (and the frame myself). Should work the same just better. Or I'm totally wrong and it will destroy the the steering or something? Is it gonna blow?
Needed to edit, spelling mistakes
I red about the steering damper installation here some time ago but didn't do the reading through entire thread. Ordered a moog kit and was surprised it didn't mount to the frame like the OEM. I'm thinking about building a bracket and mounting one end to it (and the frame myself). Should work the same just better. Or I'm totally wrong and it will destroy the the steering or something? Is it gonna blow?
Needed to edit, spelling mistakes
#530
I've just picked up an E350 and found this thread, thank goodness! For anyone who happens to be looking for the parts to do the install the OEM angled steering arm bracket is extremely hard to find. Everyone I checked with said the part is on back order and there's no release date. After much digging I found a dealer who happened to have 8 of those brackets, (seven now). Sanderson Ford in AZ is the only place I could find. Get 'em while they're hot!
#531
Moog SSD121
Hi @ all.
I purchased the Moogs SSD121 (before reading this thread) and now I am running into "problems" installing it properly.
Does any forum member have this kit installed? And would you be so kind to picture your left and right bracket installation - and publish it here.
I am driving an E350 1994 NA idi.
Thanks.
I purchased the Moogs SSD121 (before reading this thread) and now I am running into "problems" installing it properly.
Does any forum member have this kit installed? And would you be so kind to picture your left and right bracket installation - and publish it here.
I am driving an E350 1994 NA idi.
Thanks.
#532
Moog SSD121
However I try, it doesn't fit right.
The damper-mount-angle in the brackets do not fit to each other.
I always get the impression, that the piston rod will get stressed and then the seals will suffer and "die" as the piston isn't moving "naturally".
Next to that, the 4 bolts are too short to locate the "larger" bracket more towards the wheel.
Also the 2 U-bolts inner diameter was to small to fit on the steering center link. After expanding them, I got them around but now they (threads) are a bit short.
Is anyone able to picture her/his Moog SSD121 installation and publish it here or a link in the web. I couldn't find such picture in the www.
Thanks.
#533
I'm sure contacting Moog would result in some sort of printer friendly .pdf being sent your way---might be your best start.
Good luck with this!
#534
It was originally packed.
But I am wondering why there was no Moog sticker on the box or on the installation instruction - which does not cover the bracket mount.
And I can see this product picture with other online shops offering the Moog SSD121 and the content does match the picture. So I hope and expect that it is no fake.
Thanks.
#535
#536
#537
We have a discussion here: https://www.oilburners.net/threads/m...bilizer.87994/
and I must admit that the OEM-version is probably the best steering stabilizer solution available - for our vans.
And since it is too late for me - as I already bought the Moog solution - I have to wait for Moog to send the mounting instruction and then I have to get along with it.
#538
1989 fix?!
Awesome thread with some great info. I’ve read through the whole thing and a couple people had mentioned a 1989 e250 van but then didn’t follow up with what fix worked best.
Will the 3+ to 5+ caster adjustment work for an older model/passenger van like this? Or is it better to go with a stabilizer.
My van is basically undriveable on the highway- really need the best fix here. Any knowledge or help for this specific kind of van would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Will the 3+ to 5+ caster adjustment work for an older model/passenger van like this? Or is it better to go with a stabilizer.
My van is basically undriveable on the highway- really need the best fix here. Any knowledge or help for this specific kind of van would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
#539
Awesome thread with some great info. I’ve read through the whole thing and a couple people had mentioned a 1989 e250 van but then didn’t follow up with what fix worked best.
Will the 3+ to 5+ caster adjustment work for an older model/passenger van like this? Or is it better to go with a stabilizer.
My van is basically undriveable on the highway- really need the best fix here. Any knowledge or help for this specific kind of van would be greatly appreciated.
Will the 3+ to 5+ caster adjustment work for an older model/passenger van like this? Or is it better to go with a stabilizer.
My van is basically undriveable on the highway- really need the best fix here. Any knowledge or help for this specific kind of van would be greatly appreciated.
If your steering knuckles are the pinch bolt type as found on the '92's and later then yes adding up to +5 degrees caster would work. If you have the King pin type front suspension adding caster would most likely work but I'm not sure how that would be accomplished.
Adding a steering stabilizer is nothing more than a Band-Aid but some have found it helpful. I added the factory parts to my own '03 E250 with extended body and didn't notice any improvement in handling.
#540
Why is it "basically undriveable" on the highway? What does it do that causes concern?
If your steering knuckles are the pinch bolt type as found on the '92's and later then yes adding up to +5 degrees caster would work. If you have the King pin type front suspension adding caster would most likely work but I'm not sure how that would be accomplished.
Adding a steering stabilizer is nothing more than a Band-Aid but some have found it helpful. I added the factory parts to my own '03 E250 with extended body and didn't notice any improvement in handling.
If your steering knuckles are the pinch bolt type as found on the '92's and later then yes adding up to +5 degrees caster would work. If you have the King pin type front suspension adding caster would most likely work but I'm not sure how that would be accomplished.
Adding a steering stabilizer is nothing more than a Band-Aid but some have found it helpful. I added the factory parts to my own '03 E250 with extended body and didn't notice any improvement in handling.
Thanks for the response! I just mean “undriveable” because once I start going past 45mph the wander and play feel DANGEROUS- like any little bump is going to throw me into the other lane.
How do I tell if I have the kingpin or pinchbolt? And, though it’s a more expensive option, would replacing the steering gear box help at all?
Thanks again!