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Old 12-30-2010, 12:21 PM
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Dealer says not to change oil yet?

I wanted to change oil at 1000 miles on my new 2010 FX4. The dealer said that I should wait till 2500 miles or so because it still has the break in oil in it.

Does he know what he is talking about or should I change it? He did say he would change it and take my money if I really wanted to.

Maybe my thinking is still old school about changing the oil right away with a new engine.

What do you guys think?
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Uh-oh! Another oil change thread. There are a lot of opinions on this topic. The manual, some dealers, and others on this site will tell you there is no reason to change it until 7,500 miles unless you're in the severe service category. I changed mine at 3,500 miles. I'm an early changer (not as early as others) for new vehicles, but that's just me. It's your truck and your money, so the choice is yours.
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Sorry, I didn't realize this subject has been beat to death.

I'm just wondering factually if anyone knows if there really is a "break-in oil" that should stay in for a while longer than 1000 miles.
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No, there is no "break-in oil". It's filled with Motorcraft 5W20 from the factory - the red-bottle synthetic blend stuff, I believe.

I dumped mine at 1K to get the initial wear metals and lubricants out of the motor. To each his own.
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^I did the same. Old habits are hard to break.
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No, there is no "break-in oil". It's filled with Motorcraft 5W20 from the factory - the red-bottle synthetic blend stuff, I believe.

I dumped mine at 1K to get the initial wear metals and lubricants out of the motor. To each his own.
Thanks, I'll be changing it.
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No, there is no "break-in oil". It's filled with Motorcraft 5W20 from the factory - the red-bottle synthetic blend stuff, I believe.

I dumped mine at 1K to get the initial wear metals and lubricants out of the motor. To each his own.

+1

If your dealer says the engine comes with break-in oil, I would try to find a different dealer.
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You know my 2010's first oil change didn't happen no where near that soon. Those that know me from the other forum, know that I'm not one to skimp on oil changes, but I think y'all are a little soon compared to factory specs, unless I got the wrong info. The last Benz my dad got was even longer with it's initial oil change then the 7500 on ours.
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I agree, break in oil is news to me. Personally I'm a 4k mi oil change person, but it will be 5k mi on my new one. The first change is probably better to do sooner, IMO, but 1k mi seems a bit too soon. I had a 1995 Taurus that I bought brand new, and changed the oil pretty much every 4k mi, and when I traded it in at over 90k mi, it still ran like new, only needing an egr valve and a radiator under the hood. Oil changes are always a preference, but today's engines don't need such short oil changes under normal conditions.
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My friend has a 1931 Model A Ford show car kept in a heated and cooled garage, and among all of his Model A signs and posters on the wall is an oil change schedule, stating to change the oil every 500 miles. The automotive world has come a long way from the "good 'ol days".
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Even when new these engines have super low wear rates only the iron is a tad high. I have plenty of UOA's to prove it. At work the new trucks we get run the factory fill till the 7500-8000 mile mark then we dump it and continue on with 10k OCI's we use bulk Conoco Philips 5w20 with a motorcraft filter. Each truck lives a pretty rough life with no special treatment given to them and they all still run well when we get rid of them at the 200K mark.
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I do the initial at 3K, (old school thinking) and then I begin my OCI's as per the owner's manual if I'm using non synthetic or synthetic blended oils.

When my 2010 Focus had 3K on the clock, I had the dealer do the first change as they paid for it. The oil was still very clean and honey colored. 3000 miles was way to soon to change that oil but I did it anyway.
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Another one of those, "What does the Owners Manual state?"
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I do the initial at 3K, (old school thinking) and then I begin my OCI's as per the owner's manual if I'm using non synthetic or synthetic blended oils.

When my 2010 Focus had 3K on the clock, I had the dealer do the first change as they paid for it. The oil was still very clean and honey colored. 3000 miles was way to soon to change that oil but I did it anyway.
I like your old school thinking.
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i asked the same question to the service manger when i bought our '10. he told me that people have been averaging between 4000-5500 on oil changes. depending on usage of course, but he said on the new vehicle advantage plan that they offer (included with each new vehicle) most of the time he said they go about 5000 before they do the change.

ALSO our XLT has an oil life meter...... when you push the dash read out selector it will bring you to a "hold reset for vehicle system check", when you hold the button down, it will send you to a new category, and the first read out will be "OIL LIFE %", "brake system" and a couple others. "HIS" recommendation was when the oil was around 10% (either side of that percentage) then bring it on in for a change. he said that is a good gauge to go by. but he said you can change it earlier, just might not get the full life out of the oil.

on a side note, we have just hit 2K on ours right now, and our oil life is at 75%

our old pontiac goober mobile (minivan) had one too, and i was using motorcraft 5w20 in it as well, and i was averaging 6500-7500 miles between changes in accordance with the oil life meter. most of the time i changed it around 10-12%!
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