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Old 12-31-2010, 10:59 AM
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How has the truck been used? If just basic driving then I would wait till 3K to change if some hauling heavy stuff an using it then sooner. You could also ask Ford an see what they say the best time to change oil in a new on would be. I change mine at 3K every time.
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You could also ask Ford an see what they say the best time to change oil in a new on would be. I change mine at 3K every time.
What I have been told by Ford is 7500. I have no reason to doubt this dealership and/or their service department. I was shocked to a degree, mainly because this is a "domestic" vehicle and I was used to higher oil change intervals on the "foreign" ones.
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Oil changes are cheap insurance. Then again, anything floating around in the oil should get trapped in the filter. If that is true then the only reason to change the oil is because it has started to break down from heat and from contaminants such as that which gets past the rings.
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The best thing(in my opinion) would be to get a few OAs under your belt, see how the oil is handling in "your" particular situation and then go from there.

Oils today are a lot better then oils in the past. Some might be able to eeck out a little more then that long oil change interval that is recommended by the factory, others may not get anywhere close. Just depends on your situation.

Oil changes are by far the cheapest things that are done on vehicles, but doing really short intervals adds up in money spent if it isn't necessary. Placebo only goes so far.
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Another one of those, "What does the Owners Manual state?"
Your owner's manual should be your only guide to a long and reliable vehicle life. Ultimately everyone should do what makes them feel better.

I think it's great that these questions are asked in here, it makes for excellent conversation. But what boggles my mind is that some folks would rather accept opinions than read the manufacturer's recommendations.

If your dealer (such as mine) tells you to come in every 3K miles for an oil change, are you going to believe him? This man is trying to turn a buck and he will tell you anything to get it.

When I bought my 2010 Focus last summer, the lady selling all the extra crap lied right to my face and told me that ford recommends 3K mile oil changes. When I opened the owners guide and proved to her that she was wrong, she got pissed and walked out. She damned near blew the deal and I made the whole Effing dealership knew how I felt about her and her fear mongering.

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Your owner's manual should be your only guide to a long and reliable vehicle life.
Yes and no, but you also have to realize is that Ford also does get things wrong as well. The manual doesn't always state what should be stated for a long reliable life. That actually has to come from trial and tribulation from the owners. Some owners are lucky, some aren't. It all boils down to the individual circumstance.
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New engines are so built tight and clean that there is no leftover casting "shrapnel" or excessive junk that comes off the parts early on. With a Ford truck, I'd change the oil at 3k (out of old time conservatism) maybe, and then move to changes at 5k-7.5k depending on what makes you comfortable. I've been driving for 41 years now, and used to swear by the 1k initial change and 3k changes after that, but old carbureted engines used to dump a lot more raw fuel into the oil, and were much less tight, leaving more combustion by products in the oil. And tires used to last about 20k miles or so--stuff is better these days.

Currently, Honda in particular virtually demands that you leave the factory fill in the engine through at least 5k miles. They do not use a break in oil per se, but purposely leave a lot of moly assembly lube in the engine and this makes for a slightly treated oil fill for the initial factory fill.

I am not aware of Ford or any other mfr that has made this statement, but Honda is pretty official about it.

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For the sake of argument, I performed my weekly fluid check on my vehicles. My Focus now has 6300 miles on it and it has 3300 miles on this dealer supplied oil change. The oil still looks like honey, has no unusual odor nor does it feel gritty. I would be a waste of oil and my money to dump this oil at this point.

Likewise, my Expedition has 79,689 miles on it. I changed the oil in early November when it had 77,xxx on the clock. That oil still looks new and it's motorcraft 5w-20.
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I've been told that Ford no longer uses break-in oil. Who do you believe?
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