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Pretty dissapointing for those of us wanting better MPG's than the 5.0. 2 MPG isn't going to cut it for me and I think Ford is going to have a heck of a time convincing the V-8 crew that the EB is the way to go.

Suddenly the EB isn't that appealing to me and I never liked the 5.0.

I hope this is a fake sticker and the EB actually is closer to 23 MPG at least.

 

Are you serious? It's a full size truck, the crew cab models are going to be close to 7000#. They aren't all that aerodynamic. 21 mpg is damn good. The only way full size trucks are going to get over the 21ish mpg hump is by shedding weight, which given the things people expect these trucks to do (pull 10k trailers and hold their whole family) and the safety standards, isn't going to happen without some major engineering. 10 years ago trucks could barely get 15 mpg and now we're at 20.

 

man goggle it, there are videos of it.......i want one SO bad!

 

In addition to what I said earlier, you have to compare it to a comparable engine in terms of performance. The 6.2l is the closest thing to it and it will blow the 6.2l out of the water in terms of economy.

 

2011 Ford F-150 | EcoBoost Torture Test | Ford.com

 

My dealer said they can't take orders until at least February. With all this hype and a test drive you'd think they would glad to take orders.

 

I agree, no way to prove that this is an authentic factory window sticker. But if you read the entire sticker, you'll note the 3.55.1 axles. Likewise, under the EPA estimates, you'll also notice that average MPG's is rated at 17. While the it says 15 city and 21 hwy, you'll also notice that city says 12-18 and hwy says 18-25.

I have seen a sticker for a 2011 F-150 4x4 Screw 5.0L with 3.73.1 axles and it was rated at 14 and 19 respectively. I would expect the 5.0L to regularly get 20.

Guys who own the SD with the 6.2L are getting 16-17 regularly on the hwy.

I want to see a widow decal for the 3.7L truck.

Too many nay sayers get disappointed that something shaped like a brick doesn't get 30 MPG's.

Get a Hybrid.

 

I think 21 MPG is an accomplishment, 10% better than the 5.0L V8. I believe the revised calculations are too conservative now and I'd wager that under optimum conditions you could see 23 MPG highway without batting an eye. These are 4x4 numbers too, the 4x2 will top that by another 5%-10%.

 

to help put things in perspective, even a so-called measily 2mpg gain can mean an additional 70 miles on a 36 gallon tank. That is quite a bit of distance in my opinion. I'm sure they could achieve higher numbers if they used that mini powerstroke that they developed for land rover, (that's what I was waiting for until I heard they axed it for the f150 back in early 09', hence why I bought a 10'.

 

Here's an interesting thing to consider... can't get the ecoboost with 36 gallon tank (maybe for 2012)... so while in the ecoboost you need to get off the highway to search for a gas station and refill, the 5.0 can keep on running... saving fuel (can get 36 gallon tank with it).

 

I agree that the EB should come with a 36 gallon fuel tank in the same applications as the other engines.

Staying on topic, you should be able to beat the EPA estimates of 15/21 for the 4x4 which is impressive considering the weight of the truck and power of the engine. If the 4x2 can do another one or two MPG better, it will be even more impressive.

Show me a half-ton that gets 23 MPG with that power under the hood.

 

ummm, the 5.0 just came out, it's not the same as the old 302...anyway...

15/21 is not bad, that's what our CX9 is rated at, and it's only 4400 lbs, 273 hp, 270 tq, and fairly aerodynamic. Compare that to 6000lbs, 365hp, a boatload of torque (420), and shaped like a brick. Not bad.

 

EB won't deliver the same fuel economy towing as the 6.2L. Ford should offer all options in all models so we have a choice in what we want instead of being dictated what we can have. The price of these new trucks is too high already and to be told what we have to spend our $ on to get the options we have to have is not a free market economy. I was also disappointed that Ford dropped their plans to offer the 4.4L diesel in the F150. I'm also disappointed that I can't get a 6.2L max tow equippped XLT F150. Since I can't have what I want from Ford I'll keep what I have for another 6-8 years.

 

I'm still going to strongly consider the EB for my next F150. Durability seems to be there, fuel econ. better than the 6.2, very good advertised pulling power. I bet in three years when I'm ready for my next truck, the EB will be improved even more. Believe me, I'm a die hard V8 guy, but I'm bullish on new technology that can equal or better V8 engines with economy, even if it is just a bit better. Ford is the only company putting these technology's to use right now in half ton trucks, not too bad if you ask me.

 

Right now the only "new" trucks that really interest me is Ford. Then you throw around the numbers of the eco, and really look close under the 21... guess what it says you will get between 17-25 mpg's, depending on driving. That means that if you drive responsively you will get better. The 21 is just an average. I think with this engine it is up to you to get the good economy, if you really spool the turbos then yes you will not get great fuel use. However if you only use the power when you truely need it then you will be fine.