I hopefully got it figured out!!!!
#1
I hopefully got it figured out!!!!
Okay guys, I have been having the long cranking time issue for about a year now. I've posted about this and read through a million others posting about this. I already replaced STC fitting, tried the block heater, tested the FICM, tested the glow plugs, bought new batteries and still no luck. Every time I've posted something on this someone had asked.... "Do you have a scanguage?". My answer was always no until today!!!
I finally got an SCII. Now how do I set this up to be able to see if I have HPOP issues and FICM issues?? I am so excited to finally be able to know the problem before I start digging and replacing things!! Anyone up to giving me a scan gauge lesson on what this thing can do??
Thanks all in advance...I love this forum!!
I finally got an SCII. Now how do I set this up to be able to see if I have HPOP issues and FICM issues?? I am so excited to finally be able to know the problem before I start digging and replacing things!! Anyone up to giving me a scan gauge lesson on what this thing can do??
Thanks all in advance...I love this forum!!
#3
Here is a list of Xgauges. They have operating values listed. ICP-psi, ICP-volts and IPR% will help with HPO testing. Compare your values with those. Make sure FICM is tested when cold. Then the others are hot values. And high idle, from what I have read here is 2500 rpm. for testing purposes.
If someone has other Xgauge recommendations for testing HPO that I have missed, jump in !!!!
KO=KEY ON LI=LOW IDLE HI=HIGH IDLE OR=OPERATING RANGE
FICM Vehicle Power (Volts) (Should be 12 Volts, should not drop below 10.25 for more than 60 seconds, or 9.0 for 4 seconds. TSB 09-24-03)
TXD: 07E02209CE
RXF: 0462450906CE
RXD: 3010
MTH: 006401000000
NAM: FVP
KO=12.0 LI=14.0 HI=14.0 OR=10.5-15.5
FICM Logic Power (Volts) (Should be 12 volts)
TXD: 07E02209CF
RXF: 0462450906CF
RXD: 3010
MTH: 006401000000
NAM: FLP
KO=12.0 LI=13.5 HI=13.5 OR=10.5-15.5
FICM Main Power (Volts) (Should be 47-48) Your FMP should never dip below 45. If it does, your FICM is toast and needs repaired or replaced.
TXD: 07E02209D0
RXF: 0462450906D0
RXD: 3010
MTH: 006401000000
NAM: FMP
KO=47 LI=47.5 HI=47.5 OR=40-52 (yes, that is what it says from Ford)
VGT Duty Cycle (%)
TXD: 07E022096D
RXF: 04620509066D
RXD: 3010
MTH: 00647FFF0000
NAM: VGT
KO=0 LI=73 HI=43 OR=0-100 %
Engine Oil Temp
TXD: 07E0221310
RXF: 046245130610
RXD: 3010
MTH: 00090005F05F (00090005FFD8 alternate MTH found)
NAM: EOT
Engine hot KO=190 LI=190 HI=190 OR= -40 - 302 *F
Inj. Control Press. (ICP / HPOP)
TXD: 07E0221446
RXF: 046205140646
RXD: 3010
MTH: 003900640000
NAM: ICP
KO=0 LI=625.5 HI=1400-1450 OR=0-4045
ICP Voltage (Volts)
TXD: 07E02216AD
RXF: 0462451606AD
RXD: 3010
MTH: 004827100000
NAM: ICV
KO=0.2 LI=1.0 HI=1.8 OR=.15-4.7 Volts
IPR Duty Cycle
TXD: 07E0221434
RXF: 046285140634
RXD: 3008
MTH: 0DCA03E8000A
NAM: IPR %
KO=14.84 LI=24 HI=40.60 OR=0-50 %
Camshaft & Crankshaft Sync (1 = in sync, 0 = not in sync)
TXD: 07E02209CD
RXF: 0462050906CD
RXD: 3000 (3001 alternate)
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: SYC
KO=0 LI=1 HI=1 OR 0-1 (NO/YES)
Intake Air Temperature 2 (Fahrenheit)
TXD: 07E02216A8
RXF: 0462051606A8
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: IA2
Engine HOT KO=113 LI=113 HI=113 OR= -40-250 *F
Barometric Pressure
TXD: 07E0221127
RXF: 046285110627
RXD: 3008
MTH: 003100500000
NAM: BMP
Here is another BAR if the above one is not working for you. The one below works for me.
Barometric Pressure (PSI)
TXD: 07E0221442
RXF: 046285140642
RXD: 3010
MTH: 001D00500000
NAM: BAR
KO=96.5 (14) LI=96.5 (14) HI=96.5 (14) OR=50 - 120 (7.3 - 17.4) kPa (PSI)
Exhaust Back Pressure
TXD: 07E0221445
RXF: 046285140645
RXD: 3010
MTH: 001D00500000
NAM: EBP
KO=103 (15) LI=110 (16) HI=110 (16) OR=55 - 607 (8 -88) kPA (PSI)
Manifold Absolute Pressure (PSI) (BOOST)
TXD: 07E0221440
RXF: 046285140640
RXD: 3010
MTH: 012203200000
NAM: PSI
MAP is a standard gauge - but this XGauge is actually better than the standard one. It has a larger range which was needed because the standard gauge tops out around 37 psi absolute (about 22 lbs of boost), which diesels have no problem doing. This one should read well beyond 22lbs of boost.
With a little tweaking you can adjust this to read boost as you said.
To do this, just plug in the MAP code - get a reading from it with the key in the on position but the engine off, then based on the reading changed the last 4 digits of the MTH to whatever corresponds to your reading on this table
12.7 FF81
12.8 FF80
12.9 FF7F
13.0 FF7E
13.1 FF7D
13.2 FF7C
13.3 FF7B
13.4 FF7A
13.5 FF79
13.6 FF78
13.7 FF77
13.8 FF76
13.9 FF75
14.0 -- FF74
14.1 -- FF73
14.2 -- FF72
14.3 -- FF71
14.4 -- FF70
14.5 -- FF6F
14.6 -- FF6E
14.7 -- FF6D
14.8 -- FF6C
14.9 -- FF6B
15.0 -- FF6A
So, for example if you got a reading of 14.5 PSI with key on engine off you'd change the MTH to 01220320FF6F and the reading should read 0.0 with key on engine off and would then show how many lbs of boost you were at when the vehicle is running.
DTC Count (Diagnostic Trouble Code Count)
TXD: 07E0220200
RXF: 046205020600
RXD: 3008
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: DTC
Counts trouble code cycles
KO=0 LI=0 HI=0 OR=0 - 255
VREF (Calibration Voltage Input)
TXD: 07E0221155
RXF: 046245110655
RXD: 3010
MTH: 006433330000
NAM: CVI
KO=4.9 LI=4.9 HI=4.9 OR=4.5 - 5.5 VOLTS Reference Voltage
If someone has other Xgauge recommendations for testing HPO that I have missed, jump in !!!!
KO=KEY ON LI=LOW IDLE HI=HIGH IDLE OR=OPERATING RANGE
FICM Vehicle Power (Volts) (Should be 12 Volts, should not drop below 10.25 for more than 60 seconds, or 9.0 for 4 seconds. TSB 09-24-03)
TXD: 07E02209CE
RXF: 0462450906CE
RXD: 3010
MTH: 006401000000
NAM: FVP
KO=12.0 LI=14.0 HI=14.0 OR=10.5-15.5
FICM Logic Power (Volts) (Should be 12 volts)
TXD: 07E02209CF
RXF: 0462450906CF
RXD: 3010
MTH: 006401000000
NAM: FLP
KO=12.0 LI=13.5 HI=13.5 OR=10.5-15.5
FICM Main Power (Volts) (Should be 47-48) Your FMP should never dip below 45. If it does, your FICM is toast and needs repaired or replaced.
TXD: 07E02209D0
RXF: 0462450906D0
RXD: 3010
MTH: 006401000000
NAM: FMP
KO=47 LI=47.5 HI=47.5 OR=40-52 (yes, that is what it says from Ford)
VGT Duty Cycle (%)
TXD: 07E022096D
RXF: 04620509066D
RXD: 3010
MTH: 00647FFF0000
NAM: VGT
KO=0 LI=73 HI=43 OR=0-100 %
Engine Oil Temp
TXD: 07E0221310
RXF: 046245130610
RXD: 3010
MTH: 00090005F05F (00090005FFD8 alternate MTH found)
NAM: EOT
Engine hot KO=190 LI=190 HI=190 OR= -40 - 302 *F
Inj. Control Press. (ICP / HPOP)
TXD: 07E0221446
RXF: 046205140646
RXD: 3010
MTH: 003900640000
NAM: ICP
KO=0 LI=625.5 HI=1400-1450 OR=0-4045
ICP Voltage (Volts)
TXD: 07E02216AD
RXF: 0462451606AD
RXD: 3010
MTH: 004827100000
NAM: ICV
KO=0.2 LI=1.0 HI=1.8 OR=.15-4.7 Volts
IPR Duty Cycle
TXD: 07E0221434
RXF: 046285140634
RXD: 3008
MTH: 0DCA03E8000A
NAM: IPR %
KO=14.84 LI=24 HI=40.60 OR=0-50 %
Camshaft & Crankshaft Sync (1 = in sync, 0 = not in sync)
TXD: 07E02209CD
RXF: 0462050906CD
RXD: 3000 (3001 alternate)
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: SYC
KO=0 LI=1 HI=1 OR 0-1 (NO/YES)
Intake Air Temperature 2 (Fahrenheit)
TXD: 07E02216A8
RXF: 0462051606A8
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: IA2
Engine HOT KO=113 LI=113 HI=113 OR= -40-250 *F
Barometric Pressure
TXD: 07E0221127
RXF: 046285110627
RXD: 3008
MTH: 003100500000
NAM: BMP
Here is another BAR if the above one is not working for you. The one below works for me.
Barometric Pressure (PSI)
TXD: 07E0221442
RXF: 046285140642
RXD: 3010
MTH: 001D00500000
NAM: BAR
KO=96.5 (14) LI=96.5 (14) HI=96.5 (14) OR=50 - 120 (7.3 - 17.4) kPa (PSI)
Exhaust Back Pressure
TXD: 07E0221445
RXF: 046285140645
RXD: 3010
MTH: 001D00500000
NAM: EBP
KO=103 (15) LI=110 (16) HI=110 (16) OR=55 - 607 (8 -88) kPA (PSI)
Manifold Absolute Pressure (PSI) (BOOST)
TXD: 07E0221440
RXF: 046285140640
RXD: 3010
MTH: 012203200000
NAM: PSI
MAP is a standard gauge - but this XGauge is actually better than the standard one. It has a larger range which was needed because the standard gauge tops out around 37 psi absolute (about 22 lbs of boost), which diesels have no problem doing. This one should read well beyond 22lbs of boost.
With a little tweaking you can adjust this to read boost as you said.
To do this, just plug in the MAP code - get a reading from it with the key in the on position but the engine off, then based on the reading changed the last 4 digits of the MTH to whatever corresponds to your reading on this table
12.7 FF81
12.8 FF80
12.9 FF7F
13.0 FF7E
13.1 FF7D
13.2 FF7C
13.3 FF7B
13.4 FF7A
13.5 FF79
13.6 FF78
13.7 FF77
13.8 FF76
13.9 FF75
14.0 -- FF74
14.1 -- FF73
14.2 -- FF72
14.3 -- FF71
14.4 -- FF70
14.5 -- FF6F
14.6 -- FF6E
14.7 -- FF6D
14.8 -- FF6C
14.9 -- FF6B
15.0 -- FF6A
So, for example if you got a reading of 14.5 PSI with key on engine off you'd change the MTH to 01220320FF6F and the reading should read 0.0 with key on engine off and would then show how many lbs of boost you were at when the vehicle is running.
DTC Count (Diagnostic Trouble Code Count)
TXD: 07E0220200
RXF: 046205020600
RXD: 3008
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: DTC
Counts trouble code cycles
KO=0 LI=0 HI=0 OR=0 - 255
VREF (Calibration Voltage Input)
TXD: 07E0221155
RXF: 046245110655
RXD: 3010
MTH: 006433330000
NAM: CVI
KO=4.9 LI=4.9 HI=4.9 OR=4.5 - 5.5 VOLTS Reference Voltage
#4
Something that M-chan posted: Might interest you.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post11246623
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post11246623
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