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Old 12-14-2010, 07:36 PM
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2011 vs. 2010 F-350

I've searched this and other sites for a complete set of differences between the 2010 and 2011 Ford F-350 and have not come up with anything. It's difficult this time of year to decide whether or not to get the latest model or save some dough and go for the 2010 model.

I know Ford introduced their newly designed, Ford built diesel engine but what else is different?

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Old 12-14-2010, 07:44 PM
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2010 last year you can get a v10 in a F350 or manual tranny. 2011 first year for the new 6.2 gasser engine and new 6 speed auto/manual tranny.
 
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6 speed auto

brand new dash display with a 4" LCD screen that tells you all kinds of info.

just to name a few..

the only reason i'd buy a 2010 over a 2011 at this point is if i couldnt afford the 2011..

the 2011 is just that much better...
 
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If you are looking at a DRW the fenders on the 2011 are UGLY (IMO). I don't like the exaggerated look of the SRW's fenders either. If that was what fit in my vehicle critera I could live with it, but you have to consider the rest of the beast.

The engines and transmissions are probably the biggest differences. The manual gear selection is pretty cool (electronic control of the auto transmission).

I do not know how well the engines hold up long-term yet. Since all of the engines in the SD's just came out I don't know that anyone knows how they are going to hold up just yet. My thinking is it is better to go with a system that has been out for a few years and probably has the bugs worked out than to risk it with the "latest and greatest". I got my 2010 and am happy with it so far.
 
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I probably would have got a 2011 if I could have bought one close in price to what I bought my 2010 for. But since that was not the case and the 2010 will do everything that I need it to do and then some (and for about $5,000 less) I'm very happy with my 2010.

With that said the 6 speed auto transmission is a very nice upgrade. The engine is definitely more powerful than the 2010's (at least as far as diesels) although it is probably harder to remove the emissions junk as it now uses urea injection. The new LCD message center screen in the dash is in my opinion the nicest improvement of all on the 2011 trucks. It really sets THE standard for what an information center should be on a truck. Oh and for 2011 you can get an actual locking differential for the rear instead of a limited slip. Obviously there's other stuff but that's some of the biggies. I didn't feel like the interior was appreciably different at all outside of the message center personally.
 
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No 6-speed manual?

I'd buy a 2011 in a heart beat if they still offered the manual transmission.

The 6.7L PSD is a major improvement over the 6.4L
 
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I own a 22' ski boat (about 5,000 lbs). I plan to purchase a 5th wheel camper and tow it + ski boat with either a 2010 or 2011 f350. Does the 2010 model come with exhaust brakes like the 2011 model? The tow/haul mode in the 2011 seems very impressive but I can't find any information online about the 2010 model. Ford.com is plastered with lots of great info about the 2011 model - just hoping someone can shed some light on the 2010 model when it comes to towing, the braking system, etc.
 
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Originally Posted by cameronm
I own a 22' ski boat (about 5,000 lbs). I plan to purchase a 5th wheel camper and tow it + ski boat with either a 2010 or 2011 f350. Does the 2010 model come with exhaust brakes like the 2011 model? The tow/haul mode in the 2011 seems very impressive but I can't find any information online about the 2010 model. Ford.com is plastered with lots of great info about the 2011 model - just hoping someone can shed some light on the 2010 model when it comes to towing, the braking system, etc.
My 2010 6.4 PS does not have an exhaust brake. When tow/haul mode is engaged the truck does do an excellent job of using engine compression to slow things down and lessen the need for the brakes, but it's not quite as good as an exhaust brake.

To me what it comes down to is price. If you can get a 2011 for close to what a 2010 goes for, then I'd go with the 2011. However to me, I got a smoking deal (cheaper than X-plan) on my 2010 and a 2011 would have been probably $4000 more. Since the 2011 wasn't $4000 or like $50 more per month better to me than the 2010, I bought the 2010 and am happy with it. When the warranty expires every piece of emissions equipment is coming off my 6.4 and I believe that it will make an already excellent engine that is known for some quirks into an even better, more reliable virtually quirk free engine.
 
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New diesel and gas engine in 2011. New optional diesel exhaust brake. New 6 speed automatic transmission. No more 6.8L V-10 or 5.4L V-8 in the F-250 or F-350 pickup. No more manual transmission.
 
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Old 12-15-2010, 10:33 AM
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It depends on how you plan to use it too. Both models are great trucks but as I have stated to others before, I believe that the '11 is actually worth the extra $4-5K in price over the '10 model. Reasoning is basically what everyone has already pointed out, transmission and diesel engine as well as the interior changes. Folks are also happy with the gasser so far.

You should spend some time reading the 6.4 Diesel section in this forum and also the V10 and 6.2 as well as the 6.7 forum sections. Go through the "Tech Folders" for each engine platform.
 
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Originally Posted by cameronm
I know Ford introduced their newly designed, Ford built diesel engine but what else is different?

Thanks!
Cameron

AC vents to blow in the back seat & Air conditioned front seats are the two options that weren't available in the 2010.

and only $4-5,000 difference!?!? There was a $15,000 difference when I bought my 2010 with the rebates and interest incentives that I was offered.
 
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and only $4-5,000 difference!?!? There was a $15,000 difference when I bought my 2010 with the rebates and interest incentives that I was offered.

I paid about $15,000 less than sticker on my 2010, whereas the 2011 would have been about $10,000 or so less than sticker. Part of that difference was the larger rebates on the 2010 versus the 2011. With the 2011 I would have been paying about X-plan pricing and the 2010 was a good chunk less than X-plan. As I alluded to in my previous posts I am happy and feel that I got a great deal, plus $4,000 to $5,000 will buy a lot of diesel fuel. With the fact that I only average 5,000 to 6,000 miles per year the increased fuel economy of the 6.7 liter vs. the 6.4 liter would probably never be realized for me as I don't keep my vehicles for a long time. Plus I was thinking about how difficult it might be to eliminate the emissions equipment on the 6.7 liter with its urea injection system vs. the already proven DPF delete kits and tuners available for the 6.4 liter. I think once the warranty expires that a 6.4 liter minus all the emissions garbage may turn out to be a better engine than the 6.7 liter with all the emissions junk. In all likelihood though given my track record I'll likely trade my 2010 in on a new crew cab diesel in 4 or 5 years right around the time the warranty expires anyway.
 
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Originally Posted by Lt CHEG
I think once the warranty expires that a 6.4 liter minus all the emissions garbage may turn out to be a better engine than the 6.7 liter with all the emissions junk.
I RARELY call out anybody here but this one got to me a little too much. A tuned 6.4 (Spartan 250 tune w/dpf delete) will behave like a stock 6.7. I fully understand that this comparison may be real and both these motors will perform similarly. But, how can you publicly state the the tuned 6.4 will be better than the factory 6.7? That's an opinion for sure but wow, pretty bold statement.
 
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Originally Posted by ruschejj
I RARELY call out anybody here but this one got to me a little too much. A tuned 6.4 (Spartan 250 tune w/dpf delete) will behave like a stock 6.7. I fully understand that this comparison may be real and both these motors will perform similarly. But, how can you publicly state the the tuned 6.4 will be better than the factory 6.7? That's an opinion for sure but wow, pretty bold statement.

Easy bud I'm not trying to publicly state that anything will definitely behave a certain way. I'm just hypothesizing that since the 6.4 is well known to suffer from its emissions equipment burden and the difference in numbers (400 HP, 800 tq vs. 350 HP, 650 tq) in both engines is easily made up by a DPF delete and appropriate tune that it may turn out to be that the 6.4 will be the last motor that you can really modify to completely remove all the factory pollution control equipment. And while pollution control equipment may make the environmentalists happy it is rarely good for engine performance. So the 6.4 may end up being more modifiable to higher horsepower numbers than the 6.7. It's strictly a hypothesis and I don't think that the 6.7 has been out even remotely long enough to make any definitive statements about it and its ability to be modified. I'm not trying to start anything or offend anyone. Heck I'll even agree that in stock form it looks like the 6.7 is a much better overall performer than the 6.4. I'm just kind of thinking out loud is all.
 


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