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99 Expedition stuck in four wheel drive..help!

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Old 12-08-2015, 10:35 PM
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The burn mark on the display is something that is made during the manufacturing process, and it's completely nornal.
 
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How can it be stuck in A4WD and still shift into 4hi or 4low?
When I shift the selector to 4hi and 4 lo it shifts. I can tell by the way it drives..
 
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When I shift the selector to 4hi and 4 lo it shifts. I can tell by the way it drives..
When I put it back in A4wd it should be just two wheel drive until the back tired spin..but it stays in a4wd
 
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Old 12-09-2015, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by drk1bowhunter
When I put it back in A4wd it should be just two wheel drive until the back tired spin..but it stays in a4wd
This is where you're losing me...if it stays in A4WD then how can you feel it shift into 4Hi when you move the selector switch? There is no difference between A4WD staying locked up and 4Hi...they are the same.
 
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Doesn't 4HI lock the transfer case? Or is that only on later ones which also has the 2HI option?
 
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[QUOTE=alloro;15852504]This is where you're losing me...if it stays in A4WD then how can you feel it shift into 4Hi when you move the selector switch? There is no difference between A4WD staying locked up and 4Hi...they are the same.[/QUOT

Okay let's forget that I can feel anything..I do know that my a4wd is always engaged until I pull the fuses under the hood for it
 
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Okay let's forget that I can feel anything..I do know that my a4wd is always engaged until I pull the fuses under the hood for it[/QUOTE]
Sounds like when he's in A4WD the Torque on Demand clutch is at 100% duty cycle. The GEM prolly thinks there is a difference in speed between the front and rear driveshafts.
Are there any warning lights on? Like CEL or flashing OD light? Maybe a good scan tool can pull out some B codes?
 
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Sounds like when he's in A4WD the Torque on Demand clutch is at 100% duty cycle. The GEM prolly thinks there is a difference in speed between the front and rear driveshafts.
Are there any warning lights on? Like CEL or flashing OD light? Maybe a good scan tool can pull out some B codes?
No lights on until I pull the fuse 104 then the 4x4 light flashes
 
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Old 12-10-2015, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Skauber
Doesn't 4HI lock the transfer case? Or is that only on later ones which also has the 2HI option?
The TC is mechanically "locked" in 4WD when the selector switch is in A4WD or 4Hi. The difference is that when in A4WD the front clutch (powered by fuse 104) is electrically disengaged until rear wheel spin is detected. When rear wheel spin (RWS) is detected the system powers the front clutch which engages the front driveshaft to give the added traction. The sole purpose of the transfer case shift motor is to switch between 4WD Hi and 4WD Low. Since pulling fuse 104 releases the front driveshaft I suspect there is a problem with a speed sensor, like pdqford suggested, or there could be a problem with a relay, the 4WD circuitry, or one of the contacts in the shift motor. At this point my money is on the shift motor contact since there is no trouble light being flashed.
 
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Originally Posted by alloro
The TC is mechanically "locked" in 4WD when the selector switch is in A4WD or 4Hi. The difference is that when in A4WD the front clutch (powered by fuse 104) is electrically disengaged until rear wheel spin is detected. When rear wheel spin (RWS) is detected the system powers the front clutch which engages the front driveshaft to give the added traction. The sole purpose of the transfer case shift motor is to switch between 4WD Hi and 4WD Low. Since pulling fuse 104 releases the front driveshaft I suspect there is a problem with a speed sensor, like pdqford suggested, or there could be a problem with a relay, the 4WD circuitry, or one of the contacts in the shift motor. At this point my money is on the shift motor contact since there is no trouble light being flashed.
Thanks I'll look into the shift motor...
 
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I have Exact problem in my 2000!
 
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[QUOTE=BadBee;15862359]Bowhunter
I have Exact problem in my 2000

I'm still having the problem let you know if I get it fixed
 
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AWD

I'll be working on mine this week and will post results!!!Thanks
 
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Originally Posted by drk1bowhunter
I'm still having the problem let you know if I get it fixed
Did you ever get it fixed. I followed this forum last winter and gave up on mine. I just pulled the 104 fuse and called it good.

I have a 2000 Expedition Eddie Bauer 4x4 with the A4WD/4HI/4LO switch.

I recently replaced the steering knuckles, upper control arms, upper and lower ball joints, wheel hub/bearing assembly, brake hoses, rotors, calipers, pads, tires, and wheels. I used new factory sized wheels and new factory sized tires, and Timken wheel bearing and hub assemblies. After putting it back together i noticed that the sticker on the door frame in the drivers side door. It said that the front tires were to be at 30psi and the rears to be at 35 psi. I set my tire pressures correctly and figured what the hell I'll try putting in the 104 fuse. Guess what!!! It worked!!! Maybe its was the wheel hub assembly, it comes with new speed sensors. Maybe its the tire pressures. I really don't care, it worked!

Now i needed an alignment. I attempted to adjust the camber myself afterwards the automatic 4 wheel drive re engaged and i felt the binding especially when turning. I pulled the 104 fuse again and it didn't stop the binding. I'm taking it in for a professional alignment tomorrow. Maybe this will fix the problem. I'm hoping it's the alignment now. I'll let you know what I find out.
 
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Old 11-29-2016, 04:26 PM
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My problem was the same I bought a junkie transfer case for a $100 put it in and shazaam!
It works, the clutch packs were eaten up, now I need a new shift motor as my current one is corroded. Hope this helps!!
 


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