1st Diesel vehicle purchased and followed the dealer recommended oil change intervals of 10,000 miles. While starting up a very steep grade I lost traction and shifted into 4-high and when the tires caught it felt like the tranny dropped and the engine started running like S.

Turns out engine melted down at 30,800 miles (#2 & #8) – Ford engineer denies warranty due to lack of maintenance. Engineer tells me I should have been changing the oil at 5000 or 200hrs and I should of had 5 oil changes at this point instead of 2. Engine failure is due to oil growth from lack of maintenance causing the oil to be sucked up into the charging system.

Dealership claims no responsibility for the service recommendations they gave me.

Any Advice?

UPDATE-

Sorry guys, I need to clarify. I let off the pedal and the truck was still moving up the hill but the tires were not spinning (this is not my first 4x4).

The engineer from Ford came back with a report stating that the fuel growth from the regen process had gotten to the point where oil was sucked throught crankcase breather system and then fed into the air intake system as a uncontrolled fuel source. Basically ford and the dealership are giving me the finger stating that based on the hours of my rig I should of had 5 oil changes instead of 2.

What I think might of happened is that the breather system that injested the oil is located towards the flywheel and when the tires grabbed in 4wheel drive and I was going up the steep road all the oil ended up at the back of the engine.

Thanks for all the feed back, I really appreciate it!

 

Not sure if this post is a hoax or not? sucked up into the charging system??????

 

I can't recall - do the 2009's have oil change warning lights?

Call the Ford Customer Relationship Center: 800-392-3673

 

1. NEVER shift into 4WD when the tires are slipping. Front and rear must be turning at the same rate to avoid serious damage.

2. Look in your owners manual for the oil change interval suggestions. If one of them says 10,000 miles, you have a leg to stand on.

Sounds pretty fishy to me. Did the truck in question have a tuner or mods done to it?

 

I say sue the dealer and salesman that sold you the truck. A lot of salesmen sell cars on 40mpg and 10k mile service intervals. It's about.time they take responsibility.

 

Sounds like a hoax. I run mine 10K between oil changes with no problems. Although, I don't switch into 4WD while spinning the tires...

 

At any rate there was oil in it, and the engine went supposedly. Enough said to me. I'd be on the horn with everyone to get me a replacement. What a bummer. Good luck...

Different dealers different results: my 97 F150 had a cracked door seam. My friends 99, same thing. His dealer replaced his door under the 100k rust and corrosion warranty, mine told me to go to hell. Don't do business with that dealer anymore.

 

I've heard some weird stuff about the 6.4s but never about crankcase oil getting sucked into the charging system......

 

Somthing's just ain't right. Ford's Fleet website does say 10K for oil changes for the 2009 6.4.

Side note - never shift on the fly when the wheels are spinning!!!

 

sounds like he was 'making oil' due to regen and the crankcase filled.
which can and has happened. Many of us use the special Short Stick method of checking our oil to prevent this over-fill condition.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...ml#post7189293

we are also using the severe duty oil change maint cycle at 5,000 miles to help avoid this condition.

all that said, I don't see how they can deny if the recorded maint is as documented. so, I'd call the for 800 customer service number. be prepared to provide the documentation on service of course.

Sam

 

Hmmm making oil is not the cause therefore call ford cust svc...most likely the dealer is saying no warranty not ford.

clearly 10K oil change intervals are allowed.

This oil in the charging system...so it got in the alternator did it? Clearly the op does not do his own maintance..so the dealer should have all records and ford cust svc can access them.

 

>Engine failure is due to oil growth from lack of maintenance causing the oil to be sucked up into the charging system

I'm assuming the OP, as a first time diesel owner, also doesn't use the terms we have come to learn here. so 'oil growth' and 'sucked up' were the two key phrases for me. Likely the 2 & 8 injectors stuck for some reason (fuel filter problem, water, ...) causing the over full condition.

Sam

 

Dealers get away with a lot of crap....my wifes bmw manual says change oil every 15k.. well with 72k on her car and engine trouble guess what the dealer said? You should have changed the oil every 7500k cuz you need a new motor now. Took it to the shop i take my truck to and they solved the issue. Now have extended protection on her engine as well as mine.

 

Good thoughts Sam.

Maybe he will report back with more info.

Scott

 

I hear you. Anybody else smell fish? Maybe the same fish smell as another new posters thread about multiple 6.4 issues.