I'm begining to hate this thing
#1
I'm begining to hate this thing
I posted on the Van forum, and got no responses, so I'll try here.
I've got a '90 E150, 4.9l auto. I parked it for around 3 weeks. It ran good at that time.
I went and tried to start it a couple weeks ago, and wouldn't start without using ether. I had to keep my foot on it to keep it from stalling. The check engine light was on until warmed up, then idled normally. I disconnected the MAP and engine stumbled, then idled normally.
The Throttle position sensor has been replaced.
The Air Intake Valve works,
The coolant temp sensor is good.
Battery is new.
I've hooked my code reader up, and the only code I got was 77, WOT not detected/operator error. That was with KOER test. I'm a bit leery on that code, tried it twice with the same results.
Someone mentioned an air temp sensor on the throttle body, well I can't find it.
What else should I be looking at? The MAP? The EGR? The ECM? Sure is strange when you park a running vehicle for a 3 weeks, then it won't start.
I've got a '90 E150, 4.9l auto. I parked it for around 3 weeks. It ran good at that time.
I went and tried to start it a couple weeks ago, and wouldn't start without using ether. I had to keep my foot on it to keep it from stalling. The check engine light was on until warmed up, then idled normally. I disconnected the MAP and engine stumbled, then idled normally.
The Throttle position sensor has been replaced.
The Air Intake Valve works,
The coolant temp sensor is good.
Battery is new.
I've hooked my code reader up, and the only code I got was 77, WOT not detected/operator error. That was with KOER test. I'm a bit leery on that code, tried it twice with the same results.
Someone mentioned an air temp sensor on the throttle body, well I can't find it.
What else should I be looking at? The MAP? The EGR? The ECM? Sure is strange when you park a running vehicle for a 3 weeks, then it won't start.
#2
The on board diagnostics werent that great then. Not untill the mid 90's when obdII came out, and was more user friendly.
Is is possible that something maybe chewed a vacuum line making it run like that? If it was a sensor of some type, I'd maybe think more like a IAC (Idle Air Control).
Hope this is some help.
Unk Bob
Is is possible that something maybe chewed a vacuum line making it run like that? If it was a sensor of some type, I'd maybe think more like a IAC (Idle Air Control).
Hope this is some help.
Unk Bob
#3
The on board diagnostics werent that great then. Not untill the mid 90's when obdII came out, and was more user friendly.
Is is possible that something maybe chewed a vacuum line making it run like that? If it was a sensor of some type, I'd maybe think more like a IAC (Idle Air Control).
Hope this is some help.
Unk Bob
Is is possible that something maybe chewed a vacuum line making it run like that? If it was a sensor of some type, I'd maybe think more like a IAC (Idle Air Control).
Hope this is some help.
Unk Bob
Thanks for the reply!
#4
hopefully you didn't have anything get pulled through the air intake or there could be water in your gas now that gas has 10% ethanol CH3CH2OH or C2H5OH
the 4.9 never liked water in the first place but alcohol doesn't pollute ground water and it is very good for big business i wouldn't put it lower then 87 octane if it is 85 octane means gas is actually around 83 octane mixed with 112octane ethanol to make it min grade gas high grade gas wont compensate 4.9l never liked high octane fuel people forget it is not really that small of an engine it just burns the fuel to fast
(i am going to look through my chiltons truck and van it isn't the same year put they didn't change very much)
#5
hopefully you didn't have anything get pulled through the air intake or there could be water in your gas now that gas has 10% ethanol CH3CH2OH or C2H5OH
the 4.9 never liked water in the first place but alcohol doesn't pollute ground water and it is very good for big business i wouldn't put it lower then 87 octane if it is 85 octane means gas is actually around 83 octane mixed with 112octane ethanol to make it min grade gas high grade gas wont compensate 4.9l never liked high octane fuel people forget it is not really that small of an engine it just burns the fuel to fast
(i am going to look through my chiltons truck and van it isn't the same year put they didn't change very much)
#6
i think its one of three distributor, a coil, a resistor, after i thought a bit i remembered it happened once with our 85carb i wasn't very old then mine is a 96and fuel injected (it is not the thermostat or carborator) i am not a mechanic but there isn't very many things it could be it should be idling around 550rpm
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I posted on the Van forum, and got no responses, so I'll try here.
I've got a '90 E150, 4.9l auto. I parked it for around 3 weeks. It ran good at that time.
I went and tried to start it a couple weeks ago, and wouldn't start without using ether. I had to keep my foot on it to keep it from stalling. The check engine light was on until warmed up, then idled normally. I disconnected the MAP and engine stumbled, then idled normally.
The Throttle position sensor has been replaced.
The Air Intake Valve works,
The coolant temp sensor is good.
Battery is new.
I've hooked my code reader up, and the only code I got was 77, WOT not detected/operator error. That was with KOER test. I'm a bit leery on that code, tried it twice with the same results.
Someone mentioned an air temp sensor on the throttle body, well I can't find it.
What else should I be looking at? The MAP? The EGR? The ECM? Sure is strange when you park a running vehicle for a 3 weeks, then it won't start.
I've got a '90 E150, 4.9l auto. I parked it for around 3 weeks. It ran good at that time.
I went and tried to start it a couple weeks ago, and wouldn't start without using ether. I had to keep my foot on it to keep it from stalling. The check engine light was on until warmed up, then idled normally. I disconnected the MAP and engine stumbled, then idled normally.
The Throttle position sensor has been replaced.
The Air Intake Valve works,
The coolant temp sensor is good.
Battery is new.
I've hooked my code reader up, and the only code I got was 77, WOT not detected/operator error. That was with KOER test. I'm a bit leery on that code, tried it twice with the same results.
Someone mentioned an air temp sensor on the throttle body, well I can't find it.
What else should I be looking at? The MAP? The EGR? The ECM? Sure is strange when you park a running vehicle for a 3 weeks, then it won't start.
it asks for it and you'll prolly get an all clear.
Next step for me would be to do a wiggle test to check for a bad connections. Don't buy a bunch of parts until you have each part tested- Autozone can do it for you.
#9
#10
No, no one has diddled with the throttle plate. I did take the TPS off again, and ever so slightly turned the guts as if the throttle would be at a minimum setting while cranking, still no go.
Out of desperation, I went out and bought new plugs his morning, but haven't put them in. Anyone know the gap I should have? Thanks.
Out of desperation, I went out and bought new plugs his morning, but haven't put them in. Anyone know the gap I should have? Thanks.
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When all this started, it would start with ether, now it won't. Yepper, changed the plugs. Someone said something about the Thick Film Ignition module on the side of the distributor. He said to take a hairdryer/heatgun to it and the distributor. Sometimes the module gets moisture in there and heating it up will dry it out. That didn't work either. I do have spark and fuel.
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