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fordtrucks-digest Wednesday, March 18 1998 Volume 02 : Number 072

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In this issue:

1951 F/S in NC [Chris Hedemark ]
Re: Chrome vs. Gold [A62Unibody ]
Re: carb reply [sdelanty ]
1957 F250 Crewcab (no kidding) [Ken Payne ]
302 and F/I [billjhs ]
liters [jc & terry ]
IFS for bigger trucks [Ben Thompson ]
1939 Production Numbers [Wes Wigginton ]
Re: 302 and F/I ["Greg Charney" ]
Re: 302 and F/I [A64F100 ]
300 6 Cylinder [Ray Cardogno ]



Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:14:53 -0500
From: Chris Hedemark
Subject: 1951 F/S in NC

Howdy folks,

I was combing through the papers today and found:

FORD PICKUP "51, Fiberglass fenders,
running boards, $1800.
836-9451 From the N&O 3/15/98.

The ad *looked* like a whole truck with fiberglass parts & all, as it
was not listed under PARTS but under TRUCKS. I called the fellow up and
asked if it ran and such (I need to get a running truck ASAP as the
wife's car is just about dead). Turns out that's what he is selling the
fiberglass parts for :-( Anyway he said that the truck was running and
has a 429 in it right now. He says he'd be willing to part with the
truck sans engine and the fiberglass for $1800. From what he says the
rest of the truck is in great shape. This is in the vicinity of
Raleigh, NC and the area code if you wish to call him is 919.

Just passing this on.


Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:09:37 EST
From: A62Unibody
Subject: Re: Chrome vs. Gold

Just remember Chrome dont get ya home but it sure looks good broke down on
the side of the road!


Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:51:17 -0800
From: sdelanty
Subject: Re: carb reply

>Thanks for the response. The engine is a 4.9L aka 300ci six. My engine
>building buddy says to avoid the Holley and for dependability use the Carter.

Having had both a Holley and an Edelbrock (same as Carter AFB) on my
FE, I can wholeheartedly agree with Your Buddy!
Some say that the Holley makes better top end power which may be true,
but for good part throttle response, reliability, and ease of tuning
the Edelbrock/Carter wins hands down. I guess I'm just partial to carbs
that don't leak by design and that You can change jetting without spilling
a cupfull of fuel on the manifold every time...

Happy motoring,


Opportunity may knock only once,
but temptation leans on the doorbell.


Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:43:40 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: 1957 F250 Crewcab (no kidding)

Someone sent me a picture of a 1957 F250 Crewcab. This
is very rare. The picture is rather old, the truck
problably doesn't exist anymore. Too bad. Anyways,
I'll announce it when its on the web site. I just thought
some of you might be interested.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts


Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:24:29 -0500
From: billjhs
Subject: 302 and F/I

Hello to all,

I've seen a few postings on swapping out motors and just wanted to add
my few pennies here. I just got finished putting a 1983 Mercury Cougar
302 with F/I in my
1951 F-1. It wasn't as easy as everyone says but it was by no means very
difficult either, the results are also very gratifying. I haven't had it
on the road long enough to tell you what kind of gas mileage I am going
to get, but it sure is real smooth and very easy to work on. I would
also suggest the book by Probst called Ford fuel injection and
electronic engine control. It is very helpful when it comes to figuring
out a problem when it arises. And don't worry about the wiring and
stuff. All you have to do is take the computer and its harness, that
takes care of all the wiring for the fuel injection. All you really have
to do is tie that harness into your trucks harness for the starter and
sending some sigs to the computer, all very easy. Well I have rambled
enough here, if anyone wants or needs help with a 302 and F/I swap, its
still fresh in my cranium and I would be glad to give you help.

The only problem I am having now is that my AOD won't shift out of 1'st
gear, anybody got any suggestions. (It hasn't worked since I put it in
the truck)

See ya's
1951 f-1


Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:14:43 -0800
From: jc & terry
Subject: liters

The truck is to be as simple yet viable as can be and if need be driven
anytime / anywhere, sort what we call a 'Not Rod' or N.O.S. (not old stocker).
Thanks again and keep up the answers and entertainment.
Gary O.
47 1/2 Panel called "HD" aka Hipster Dufus.

thanx for getting me strait gary. i flunked metric class but i think it was
because the didn't sell beer in liters. the only way i know how to figure
them was the 66 ford 7liter was a 428 and i divide by that then round to the
nearest engine size i've heard of. this is what's known as pre-calculator or
napkin math. as i said the 60 i know with the 300 six is a hog. daily driver
and excellent workhorse. he says if he babies it he can get 17mpg but he
never does that. he did add a 4speed minus the granny and, if i remember, it
has 4:11 nine inch. not a quarter miler but quick on red lights. that big
six is impressive and VERY viable. let us know how you make out.

T-bird Terry


Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:13:11 +0000
From: Ben Thompson
Subject: IFS for bigger trucks

I've been reading all the recent posts regarding IFS with increasing
interest. I have a 1956 f350 9-ft express sitting in my driveway
waiting for me to get around to reinstalling my newly-rebuilt 292. So
naturally I'm wondering, "do any or all of these IFS solutions apply
to a bigger, heavier truck?


Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:11:51 -0600
From: Wes Wigginton
Subject: 1939 Production Numbers

I am the new owner of a 1939 Ford 1/2 ton Stake Bed Pickup. I understand
the production numbers were rather low on this particular configuration.

Does anyone know how many of these might have been produced? Or can someone
give me some direction on doing the research myself?

This is my first posting so please be easy on me. :>)
Wes Wigginton
technicalSCOUTS, Inc.
Manager of Technical Recruiting
13492 Research Blvd. Suite 120-171
Austin, Texas 78750
512-331-7756 off.
512-335-1899 fax.


Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:25:22 -0600
From: "Greg Charney"
Subject: Re: 302 and F/I

Are you sure of the year on that Cougar? I thought that fuel injection
started on the 86 model.
Did the tranny come from the same car? Don't worry your mileage will
increase when you final find the other gears!! ;)

- -----Original Message-----
From: billjhs
>I've seen a few postings on swapping out motors and just wanted to add
>my few pennies here. I just got finished putting a 1983 Mercury Cougar
>302 with F/I in my
>1951 F-1.


Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 00:45:20 EST
From: A64F100
Subject: Re: 302 and F/I

In a message dated 98-03-17 22:42:26 EST, you write:

gear, anybody got any suggestions. (It hasn't worked since I put it in
the truck)
I'm not sure but I think It' s an electronically controlled tranny... maybe
chhcek the brain and wiring..

Scott L

*Keep It Ford Blue*


Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 01:20:36 -0400
From: Ray Cardogno
Subject: 300 6 Cylinder

>T-bird Terry wrote:
>and the 300-6 is a stump puller too.

Terry & All,
I have been considering purchasing a 53 step-van with a 6 cylinder motor
with a 4-speed/2-speed axle. The seller says he THINKS it is about a 300ci.
My trucks have always had Y-blocks. I don't know nuthin from 6-cylinders,
but it seemed odd that they may have had more cubes than most of the 8's.
Are these motors any good? Seems most of these utility type vehicles have
6's in them from what I have been finding in my search for a F-100 Milk
truck (which I have not found yet). Did they use them because they were
better? cheaper? mostly used around town? nobody could see'em anyways? ? ?
I would much appreciate any feedback...

Ray C

P.S. Speaking of feedback, I have a friend who uses a camaro interior for
his Birds. Seems a camaro interior is just fine. Aw, what the heck do a
bunch of chickens care where they live anyhow?


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