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pre61-list Digest Tue, 16 May 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 081

In This Issue:
F-1s for sale . . .
Gas Gauge
Re: Gauge Amperage


From: "Mike Bishop">
Subject: F-1s for sale . . .
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 16:18:49 -0700

I'm selling two F-1s, a '50 and a '52.

The '50 is a driver with an L-head six and a floor-shift light-duty
three-speed. I put a '62 9-inch F-100 axle under it, and replaced the
16-inch wheels with 15s--5 inch-wide rims in front and 7-inch reveresed in
back, with serviceable big and little radials. The clutch and throwout are
recent (less than 1000 miles), and the trans was treated to a fresh-up at
the same time. Steering is stock and in excellent condition. Springs need
attention (new bushings and pins), and the shocks have all but forgotten
what they're supposed to do. For all that, it's not a bad driver, thanks in
great part to the radials and the decent steering box.

The cab has a couple of small dents and some rust-out in the front floor
(typical damage caused by the jute backing on the original mat). Otherwise,
it's excellent--good turret and drip rails, solid corners, unmolested
dashboard with not one extra hole! The seat is in good condition, with
serviceable fabric upholstery.

All the fenders are rough but repairable. (The original owner insisted on
parking his beloved truck in the shed every night, even when his 90-year-old
eyes could scarcely make out the opening in the building.) The running
boards are--amazingly--perfect. The front bumper is straight, but the lower
bars of the grille are pranged, as is the upper roll above the grille. The
hood is excellent, with only a small spot of distortion on the bottom
flange. All of the stainless is excellent.

The really great news is that the bed--the longer earlier style with the
embossed sides and ribbed front panel--is near perfect. The sides and front
are in amazing condition--no distortion, no dents, and no rust-outs. Even
the steel floor is intact with no major dents, and the wood subfloor is also
intact, providing full support for the steel covering. The tailgate is in
good condition, with just a couple of small panel dents and a couple more in
the hinge roll--all easily repairable.

The truck was originally light green, but over the years the original owner
brushed on red-oxide primer in spots where the original paint wore through
to original primer. Then, the grandson who inherited the truck turned his
kids loose on it with rattle-can light-gray primer--to make it more
presentable(!). I've left it this way, hoping for the time to knock it all
apart and redo it correctly, but that's not going to happen; I've a new
F-100 project that has taken priority, so it's time for the F-1 to move on
to someone who will give it the attention it deserves.

The price on the '50 is $2800--not a whole lot more than a new '48-'50 bed.

The '52 is not a driver--but it is a roller with a complete, straight
chassis. There is no engine or transmission (it was a V8 three-speed). The
cab is very good, missing 'excellent' only because of a tiny bit of drip
rail rust in one location and a tiny rust-out in the windshield flange. The
floors and cab corners are sold with no rust-outs.

The fenders are average, with rust-out at the running-board attachment
points and some dents. Still, they're repairable. The hood is very good--no
dents and with most of its trim. Good inner fenders and radiator core

The bed is very good with straight sides and front panel. (Even almost all
the original wood floor is still there!)

This one is about 95% complete (other than engine and trans) and is all
screwed together and sitting on inflated tires, ready to roll onto your
trailer for $800.

Mike Bishop
P. O. Box 944
West Point, CA 95255



From: Ray or Fran Bell>
Subject: Gas Gauge
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 08:10:47 -0400

Guys 'n Gals .. finally completed my under-bed gas tank installation. Used
a VDO sending unit as I'm running 12 V. Sender well grounded. Everything
wired according to VDO specs. Gage doesn't work. It appeared to rise
slightly off E when I poured in 2 gals. But when I filled the tank the
needle moved no further.

Double checked under-dash wiring last night and put the good ole' test
probe on the sending unit. What I saw was a regular, intermittent flashing
of the test light. Good strong 12V brightness, but the current flow acted
like I had the power source wired to the turn signal. (No, I didn't do

Any ideas?



Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 09:19:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Winford Rister>
Subject: Re: Gauge Amperage

If you are considering a resistive voltage drop, your gauges will not be as
accurate as if you use a voltage regulator.

The current draw and hence the voltage drop across a resistor will change
with the signal input, although slightly.

I recommend installing an electronic 3 tab regulator to drop from 12+ volts
to 6 v. They are available at Radio Shack and other electronic parts

From reading the manuals and inputs here I learned that Ford used individual
thermo-electric regulators in each gauge in the earlier models. Somewhere
in the 60's, I don't know exactly when, or maybe before, when they changed
to 12 v systems, they went to a single voltage regulator for the instrument
panel. It works on the same principle, that is, a heater and interrupter
circuit which is constantly opening and closing, causing a pulse signal to
the instruments. Anyway, if you drop the voltage to 6v regulated, the
original gauges should work fine.

Winford Rister
McKinney Texas
54F100(in progress)
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Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 20:41:23 -0400
From: WIlliam Hendrickson>
Subject: f600

Hello all you Ford Guru's
I have an f600 available locally, its in good shape a little rust and
rot, been on a farm all its life , some dents and a 16 foot flatbed. Is
there much value in these trucks?
He wants 5000 for it but I think its kind of high. Its a 56 by the way.


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