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pre61-list Digest Sun, 20 Feb 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 011

In This Issue:
Sway Bar Questions
ADMIN: Pictorial updated
Re: ADMIN: Pictorial updated
Volarie with 292 and headers
Re: ADMIN: Pictorial updated
Fordenstein's Monster. 56 Ford-several Q's.
pat ford's number
Front Suspension
Re: heater wire question


Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 13:36:25 -0500
From: Paul>
Subject: Sway Bar Questions

The chassis under my 54 panel has at the rear end a Chrysler axle, above
the springs, with the Chrysler (Volare?) springs used. The builder
welded the spring hangers directly under the frame, and staggered the
rear shocks.

This is all real nice, except for one thing: the panel has too much
side to side sway, and I need a sway bar.

The problem is that I bought a regular rear sway (No Limit) bar and it
doesn't work in any of the 4 possible locations (up, down, fwd, rear)
due to the spring and/or shock interference. (If the stock springs were
used, they would be farther out from the frame, allowing the sway bar to
be in its normal location, just outside of the frame, between the
springs and frame).

Does anyone know of a company who might have a rear sway bar that might
end up inside the frame (since the springs are in the way otherwise)?
Wouldn't a pro street car have this problem too? Should I look that

Any help appreciated.

PS: I know I can move my springs, etc, etc. etc. but obviously I don't
want to do any of that.

Thanks, Paul


Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 13:58:48 -0500
From: Ken Payne>
Subject: ADMIN: Pictorial updated

The pictorial has been updated. Photos sent in from November
15th through Feb 15th have been added. If you didn't get an
email saying yours has been added, then it hasn't so please
don't email me about it as I'm been absolutely swamped with

I just have to get away from computer as I've been working on
the web site, ftp and email for 3 and a half weeks and I just
can't take it anymore.

As it stands, 54 trucks have been added to pictorial. Enjoy!

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts


Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 14:54:26 EST
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Pictorial updated

In a message dated 2/20/00 1:58:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, writes:

<< >>

Where is the pictorial located?


Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 17:12:40 -0600
From: "MARK AMES">
Subject: Volarie with 292 and headers

I have not decided yet what to use for the front suspension on my 56. I was hopeing to have a Volarie with a 292 and ram-horn manifolds. After looking at some trucks at a truck show the ram-horn manifolds will not have enough room for the exhaust pipes. Has anyone else combined the Y-block with the volarie? What exhaust systems can be used?


Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 20:48:06 -0500
From: Ken Payne>
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Pictorial updated

At 02:54 PM 2/20/00 -0500, you wrote:
>In a message dated 2/20/00 1:58:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> writes:
><< >>
>Where is the pictorial located?

Go to the web site, and click on
"Pictorial" on the right of the screen. Over 600
Ford trucks are featured from all eras.



Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 03:48:47 EST
Subject: Fordenstein's Monster. 56 Ford-several Q's.

[Also posted to the message board at Ford-Trucks]

I have my grandfather's 56 Ford. He used it as a work truck and replaced
everything below the frame with parts from a 3/4ton. What year - I've NO
clue. This is also the full-length - Express? - model, so it really is an

I believe it has 16" 8 hole split rims. (I'm not in the same town as it is
right now...) The guys at the tire place didn't like them at all. My Dad
seems to think that most any wheel off a 3/4 ton Ford should work on there.
Right? Will any 8-hole off a Ford work, not just a 3/4 ton?

He also may have replaced the 272 with a 292. My dad was busy with a thing
called Vietnam when this may have happened, so we don't know for sure. I
don't see any marks on the outside of the block. Is there any way to tell,
visually, without measuring the bore and/or stroke? Any way to tell what
year 292 it may be?

What did the colonial white paint on the top and the rear of the cab mean?

What would be best for a power steering conversion? Will that probably
interfere with headers?

I think I'm finally ready to tackle this beast. I should probably be shot
for letting her sit for 7 years...

Thank you for your knowledge.

E. O'Daniel


Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 06:40:15 -0600
Subject: pat ford's number


I''ve got a copy of the registration form I can fax you if you need...but
Pat's number is704-872-7327
or email at

for everyone else here's some other numbers that might help

Grand Hotel.. 1-800-251-4444
for 6 or more rooms 1-800-472-1188
or direct at 1-423-453-1000

Pigeon Forge Chamber of Commerce 1-800-221-9858
Gatlinburg Chamber of Commerce 1-800-568-4748
Department of Tourism 1-800-251-9100

these are all from Pats flyer he mailed me a couple of weeks ago

if anyone needs a copy of the registration form...send me a fax number and
I'll send you a copy


From: "Sean Wilkinson">
Subject: Front Suspension
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:43:56 GMT

I am considering installing the front suspension from a large Mopar car ('72
Town & Country Wagon). The crossmember comes from a company called Gibbons
Fiberglass. I have thought about this install as I will be installing a big
block engine. Has anyone used their product? Any thoughts on this would be

'55 F-100


From: "Howard H. Tarnoff">
Subject: Re: heater wire question
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 13:39:30 -0500


The heater fan wires run in the bundle from the drivers side to the
heater and starter solenoid. see attached photo.


-----Original Message-----
From: Abram H. Stauffer>
Date: Saturday, February 19, 2000 7:18 PM
Subject: [pre61-list] heater wire question

> I have a two questions for the stock truck owners '53-'55. I got my
>heater blower motor working. The brushes were worn. Just put small
>wedges behind them to push them closer to the armature. The blower works
>fine, blows more air than I remember before.
> #1: the fan rattles when running. Is it the motor or is the fan loose?
>I must decide to either live with it or take it out again and
> #2: Where do the two wires from the switch go through the firewall? I
>know I should have taken pictures before I ripped it out , but.... This
>is a recirculating heater. Right now I have the wires going through the
>2 holes above the heater motor. There were 2 rubber plugs in these so I
>know that isn't right. I know the wire doesn't go through the same hole
>as the blower motor. At this time I put in a new under dash pad (ABS
>plastic) so maybe the wire hole is now covered, but I could cut another
>hole in the pad. Drawings in the shop manual are inconclusive. Help here
>would be appreciated.
> Thanks, Abe '54 F-100
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