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perf-list Digest Mon, 16 Oct 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 155

In This Issue:
Re: '86 Throttle Body
Re: 2.9 gets tinkered with ('getting it on' and safety mea
ADMIN: Pictorial additions
Re: [small-list] '86 Throttle Body
2.9 gets tinkered with


Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 23:50:36 EDT
Subject: Re: '86 Throttle Body

I have one off of a 86, and yes they are quite a bit bigger... I was going ot
put it on e bay but if you would like ot buy it let me know.

       josh davis


From: "Keith Christensen" <>
Subject: Re: 2.9 gets tinkered with ('getting it on' and safety mea
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 00:49:13 -0700

I chopped off lots of previous stuff- this is off the 'digest
version' from the perf-list.

> From: "wish" <>
> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 13:30:02 GMT
> Subject: Re: 2.9 gets tinkered with

> >For that comment, you deserve a ride!! Then you'll see why the
CA4WD wants me
> to get a roll cage and five point harnesses.

I'll agree to most of that, . (if you are into really 'getting it
I  hate 'submarine straps',  but I'm  not at all adverse to usual
5/4 point harnesses;  I just had 'works' LMC 1500 SnoCat retrofitted
with  same after the OEM "cheapass '69 Chev' seatbelts" broke --- no
stress, just junk!    (The guy who installed the new mount points is
a circletrack guy when he's not fixing copcars and such----)
(SnoCats are 'hi-risk' , the NW Washington State area is 2nd under
AK  for avalanche )

In reality , most racing 'harnesses'  are based off what Unca Sammy
puts in USAF fighterplane cockpits.. (that's where it all started..
and that's where lots of us got the "rejects(??)" that we put in our
own rigs back in the 50's/60's !)

As for "rollcages" , I should probably keep my mouth  shut.......

..... I do claim that I'm alive today because I had a rollbar in my
old M38A1 after a 6 and a half rollover episode, belted in with
"past 14 months USAF reject F102 harnesses" .  One broken finger!
(caught under the windshield frame), and assorted bruises;
passenger lost his wallet , found 100ft up the hill .  The left rear
axle was bent, but we drove it home..  (minus windshield, and cloth

You have to remember that Willey's used solid sheetmetal back in

But since I did open same orifice...

Like about 80% of the "stuff" out there on the market, most all
rollcages are "show stuff" . They "make you think you have a racer"
Unless you are prepared to cut the body panels so that you can
physically connect the rollcage  to the frame, all you gain is about
20% 'crush resistance' .

As for the B II.., all that is somewhat moot. Ford actually built a
fair amount of 'roll cage' into the later ones,, 86 on. .   I've not
seen the roof/sidebody structure in the 83-4-5's; can't say.

(Seen 5 'so-called' tipover B II's in the wreckingyards, none had
severe "roof crush", ....  )

Unless youwant to cut the bejesus out of the body, (witch usually
boogers  the built-in stuff). don't bother.

> Hahahaha ... you mean its not just 'cause its an SUV ?  :)

"SUV"... Naw..  Mine's a real 4wd.  I use it as a tool .


Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 12:23:35 -0400
From: Ken Payne <>
Subject: ADMIN: Pictorial additions

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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 09:59:36 -0700
From: john yee <>
Subject: Re: [small-list] '86 Throttle Body

You can also use a 87 TB.

I've also found these sites useful for bronco II's and parts...


J Cope wrote:

> I know the TBs off of the '86 BIIs were a little bigger than the '88 that I
> have, but I'm having a horrible time trying to find one.  The one local
> junkyard that I tried was no help, and neither was or
>  If anyone knows where I can find one, that would be great.
> Thanks in advance!
> JC
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 21:02:06 +0100
From: Adam McLaughlin <>
Subject: 2.9 gets tinkered with

I honestly can't wait until after I pass smog. I have some vacation days lined up
after that, and I am going to spend them over/under the little chop top bronco 2,
getting taht cam in. Can't wait, can't wait.

I drive my 2.9 fast when I need to, like getting to school on time, and so forth. I
don't rev the engine past three thousand RPM, however. It handles like a bullet to 45
MPH, and then things start to slow down a little. I am hoping that the cam will wake
up her near that speed along with increasing some torque.

I got the 260/272 degree cam, where the stock is 252/252. Just a bump above stock,
still keeping me california smog legal as well as giving me the low end torque that I
love for 4 wheeling.

I am sure that a V8 would outperform her, but I stay with the 2.9 at the moment
because I have WAY too much money into it, and they are easily locatable at the local
junk yards. I see four at All Trucks, and two at Penngrove Auto wreckers, ever engine
being under $800.

Everyone knows, when you are a college kid, money matters!!


wish wrote:

> >For that comment, you deserve a ride!! Then you'll see why the CA4WD wants me
> to
> >get a roll cage and five point harnesses.
> >
> Hahahaha ... you mean its not just 'cause its an SUV ?  :)
> >I gassed her up tonight before responding to this email. I get 19 MPG in the
> city,
> >and 23 in the highway.
> >
> Wow, that's great ... manual tranny I take it ?
> >Completely new EFI system. Every sensor or controller has been replaced.
> >I cut the air box off, and stuck a K and N cone on the end of that. There is
> a 58
> >MM throttle body on the upper intake, and the lower intake has beed ported
> to the
> >heads. The fuel rail pressure is raised to 45 PSI, and the injectors are ADS
> Super
> >Injectors for a higher flow rate. The coil is a MSD Blaster. The ignition system
> is
> >a MSD 6A, wires being MSD Super Conductors, and the plugs champion truck plugs.
> The
> >heads have been rebuilt, and the exhaust ports have been machines to match
> the JBA
> >headers bolted onto them. The JBA headers feed down to a Flowmaster Series
> 50
> >muffler, which exists through a 2.5" pipe. The computer chip has been reprogramed
> >to accompany all of this stuff via James Duff. The radioator is from a 4.0
> Super
> >Cool, with an electric fan bolted on to it. Dual Friction Centerforce clutch,
> and a
> >whole lot of new stuff.
> >
> Sweet ... confirms the manual tranny thing too :)  I may have to save that list
> for when a couple of my friends decide to rebuild their motors :)
> I drove a stock 2.9L 5spd. that had a lifter tick in it and it was a blast ...
> so I know they're a lot of fun and with a little skill can be driven quickly,
> but since my heart still lies in nice fast corners its hard to convince myself
> to play with something that has a center of gravity that high with a narrow
> track width :)
> Just my $.02
> wish
> 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
> 73ish 1/2ton 4x4   6.4L
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