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Volume 97 Number 0050 fordtrucks Digest

Today's Topics:

Hi -Reply
Unscubscribe
My Gripes
unsubscribe
Rebuilding 460
My Gripes -Reply
Re: Rebuilding 460
READ ME!
Re: My Gripes -Reply
S10 with a 350
Re: My Gripes & 2100/2150 for sale.
Re: S10 with a 350
Re: My Gripes -Reply
Better brakes for F-250?
Re: Napco parts
Re: My Gripes -Reply -Reply
Re: Floatation tires
Re: Hi -Reply
Re: Better brakes for F-250?
unsubscribe
mileage


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>From payneplatinum.com Fri Apr 18 13:33:00 1997 From: PAYNK (Ken Payne) Subject: Hi -Reply
To: FORDTRUCKSlofcom.com

>>> "Chad Pasma" 04/18/97 12:14pm >>> -snip-

Edelbrock has a very nice head/carb/intake/cam combo.

>How can I tell what rear-end my truck has? 9-inch would be nice...

If it has vertical and horizontal ribs on the yoke side then its the 9 inch.

>Can anyone tell me the best place to get a good box for my truck?

Box? Explain...

>Would it be easier to find one in the States for it? (I'm planning to go
>to Michigan in the next 2 weeks)

>I have a line on Daytona buckets for cheap. I'm building a budget truck.
>Personally I'd rather build an S10 with 350 but this is much cheaper so I'll
>stick with it for now :)

Blasphemy! Someone said S10.... I'm melting....

Sorry, I could not help the childish outburst.



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>From jtmfinswbell.net Fri Apr 18 13:42:40 1997 From: sooner
Subject: Unscubscribe
To: FORDTRUCKSlofcom.com

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>From jstraussinetport.com Fri Apr 18 13:58:35 1997 From: John Strauss Subject: My Gripes
To: FORDTRUCKSlofcom.com

People who send unsubscribe request to the list (and people who would "rather build an S10 with a 350") really gripe my ass.

John


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>From ssymmsix.netcom.com Fri Apr 18 14:10:46 1997 From: Steve Symms Subject: unsubscribe
To: FORDTRUCKSlofcom.com

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>From rcp1mail.gte.net Fri Apr 18 14:57:02 1997 From: ROBERT PEARCE Subject: Rebuilding 460
To: FORDTRUCKSlofcom.com

I have a 88 F-350 superduty crewcab 4X4,with a 460MFI engine,I have A 74-460 engine that I am rebuilding(bored 30 over+all new parts) the block to drop in the truck,
I would like to find out what would be a good strong camshaft to use & would it be better to keep the MFI system or go to a carb ?
Ihave a Edelbrock Preformer RPM intake & Edelbrock EDE1406 600cfm carb.
that I can use & the heads for the 74-460. Any opions or facts would be aprecated rcp1mail.gte.net


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>From payneplatinum.com Fri Apr 18 15:34:26 1997 From: PAYNK (Ken Payne) Subject: My Gripes -Reply
To: FORDTRUCKSlofcom.com

>>> John Strauss 04/18/97 12:58pm >>>
>People who send unsubscribe request to the list (and people who would
>"rather build an S10 with a 350") really gripe my ass.

>John

Not to worry, if they abuse their posting privileges they get locked out forever. What gets me is that I have to stay calm about it after they send me 10 email messages to my personal address yelling at me because they are still receiving mail. This is after I've sent them an email telling them where to find unsubscribe info! Too bad email software doesn't have "bonehead" filters.

To the 99% of you who don't do this stuff, thanks! Seeing the list work for all of us is really satisfying. I remember reading a FAQ that stated that all email lists go through stages - right now it's becoming a teenager and the "list mom" (me) is trying to figure out the best way to proceed. If I throw temper tantrums let me know.....




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>From JohnMcNmicom.com Fri Apr 18 15:35:42 1997 From: John Macnamara Subject: Re: Rebuilding 460
To: FORDTRUCKSlofcom.com

ROBERT PEARCE wrote:
>
> I have a 88 F-350 superduty crewcab 4X4,with a 460MFI engine,I have A
> 74-460 engine that I am rebuilding(bored 30 over+all new parts) the
> block to drop in the truck,
> I would like to find out what would be a good strong camshaft to use &
> would it be better to keep the MFI system or go to a carb ?
> Ihave a Edelbrock Preformer RPM intake & Edelbrock EDE1406 600cfm carb.
> that I can use & the heads for the 74-460. Any opions or facts would be
> aprecated rcp1mail.gte.net
>
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I rebuilt my 460 using a Crane 260 degree hydraulic camshaft.
Unfortunately I accidentally threw the card away so I don't quite remember the number. When I had the motor dynoed, it put out more than 50 hp more than a Dodge V10 at 80 mph yet pulled from 500 rpm all the way up to over 80.

The reason I chose the 260 degree duration is I use the truck to tow and I have 3.55 gears so I need some hefty bottom end. If you have a ratio in the 4.10 range you might want to consider the 268 degree camshaft.

Of course these durations are the advertised and not the 50 degree spec.

Just my .02

John MacNamara
78 F250 4X4 Supercab


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>From payneplatinum.com Fri Apr 18 15:38:57 1997 From: PAYNK (Ken Payne) Subject: READ ME!
To: FORDTRUCKSlofcom.com

Climbing up on flaming soapbox:

Please do NOT send list server commands (especially with incorrect syntax) to the email list address. This will NOT unsubscribe you. The web page asks all users to read the FAQ and charter **BEFORE** they subscribe. Links to the FAQ and charter are also provided. The FAQ, charter and the introduction email you received all tell you how to unsubscribe and tell you not to post such messages to the email list where 450+ people see it. Since unsubscribes are automated you must use the exact method outlined. The list server does not recognize incorrect commands or commands sent to the email list address.

I *will* *not* unsubscribe you! You must follow the directions *exactly* to unsubscribe yourself. If you still don't "get it" read the FAQ:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~fordtrucks/faq.html

Climbing down off flaming soapbox....

Ken "Frustrated List Mom"

P.S. It gripes my *ss too. I really need to go work on my truck and cool off.






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>From varnersten-nash.ten.k12.tn.us Fri Apr 18 16:12:22 1997 From: Stuart Varner Subject: Re: My Gripes -Reply
To: FORDTRUCKSlofcom.com

PAYNK (Ken Payne) wrote:
>
> >>> John Strauss 04/18/97 12:58pm >>>
> >People who send unsubscribe request to the list (and people who would
> >"rather build an S10 with a 350") really gripe my ass.
>
> >John
>
> Not to worry, if they abuse their posting privileges they
> get locked out forever. What gets me is that I have to
> stay calm about it after they send me 10 email messages to
> my personal address yelling at me because they are still
> receiving mail. This is after I've sent them an email
> telling them where to find unsubscribe info! Too bad
> email software doesn't have "bonehead" filters.
>
> To the 99% of you who don't do this stuff, thanks! Seeing
> the list work for all of us is really satisfying. I
> remember reading a FAQ that stated that all email lists
> go through stages - right now it's becoming a teenager
> and the "list mom" (me) is trying to figure out the
> best way to proceed. If I throw temper tantrums let me
> know.....
> I for one am tickled to death to have a place to hash out FoMoCo problems, talk about how great Fords are and the occaisonal "Let's conspire together and NUKE GM." It's your baby, treat her how you want......Rats on everybody else. Please let me know when I screw up.....according to my wife is often, I'd hate to be classified as a bone head and be locked out of such good company.

Still looking for a 2BBl 82 gt mustang carb with the large power valve on the bottom of the carb. A core would be ok. Stu
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>From jstraussinetport.com Fri Apr 18 16:40:19 1997 From: John Strauss Subject: S10 with a 350
To: FORDTRUCKSlofcom.com

>What id (sic) wrong with a S-10 with a 350????
>
How do I loath thee, let me count the ways:

1) It's a POS Chevy
2) It's suspension and drivetrain are based on the RWD Malibu 3) If you want an El Camino, please buy a real one 4) TH200 trans - what a winner that one was 5) It's a POS Chevy

John


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>From payneplatinum.com Fri Apr 18 16:49:11 1997 From: PAYNK (Ken Payne) Subject: Re: My Gripes & 2100/2150 for sale.
To: FORDTRUCKSlofcom.com

>>> Stuart Varner 04/18/97 03:12pm >>> -snip-
>
> I for one am tickled to death to have a place to hash out FoMoCo problems, talk about how
>great Fords are and the occaisonal "Let's conspire together and NUKE GM." It's your baby,
>treat her how you want......Rats on everybody else. Please let me know when I screw
>up.....according to my wife is often, I'd hate to be classified as a bone head and be locked
>out of such good company.

The only abuse of posting privileges that has gotten anyone locked out has been when repeated unsubscribe postings to the group. Occasionally someone will post with embedded web page HTML but that hasn't been a real problem (no one has lost posting privileges because of it). Some new software is in the works to help solve the unsubscribe problems, more on this later as things get put in place.

>Still looking for a 2BBl 82 gt mustang carb with the large power valve
>on the bottom of the carb. A core would be ok. Stu

I may have one, brand spanking new in the shrink wrap box. A 2150/2100 Autolite carb. Let me check this weekend to see if it has the large power (I'll cut a whole in the box under the carb to check) valve. Its jetted correctly and all that needs to be done to it is adjust the idle mixture for your application.

I'll let it go cheap as it ain't doing me any good around here.
If it isn't the large valve carb someone else can buy it. I'll check to see how much it costs are the store and I'll give you a price, you should see a substantual discount.




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>From jtorsfred.net Fri Apr 18 17:11:23 1997 From: JAMES
Subject: Re: S10 with a 350
To: FORDTRUCKSlofcom.com

If he wants a REAL small performance P U he should build aRANGER with a 302 and
5spd!
JAMES 1987 RANGER 2.9 -- 1996 F-150 XLT ext cab 351
Disregard from and reply to addresses To reply send to JAMES jtorsfred.net WARNING! ALL UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL WILL BE BILLED A $500.00 U.S. PROOFREADING FEE.FAILURE TO PROVIDE VALID U.S.POSTAL ADDRESS FOR SUCH BILLING OR FAILURE TO PAY WITHIN 5 DAYS OF RECIEPT WILL RESULT IN APPROPRIATE LEGAL ACTIONS


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>From jwilkmicron.net Fri Apr 18 17:19:19 1997 From: Jwilk
Subject: Re: My Gripes -Reply
To: FORDTRUCKSlofcom.com

Thanx for the list, Ken. Tough I have not recieved any response as of yet to my 85 Bronco II u-joint inquiries, I still think this e-mail group is a GREAT idea! Keep up the good work, "Mom"..>;)

P.S. Is there a Ford car e-mail group. I have questions about an 86 escort...

J Wilkins

At 03:34 PM 4/18/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>>> John Strauss 04/18/97 12:58pm >>>
>>People who send unsubscribe request to the list (and people who would
>>"rather build an S10 with a 350") really gripe my ass.
>
>>John
>
>Not to worry, if they abuse their posting privileges they
>get locked out forever. What gets me is that I have to
>stay calm about it after they send me 10 email messages to
>my personal address yelling at me because they are still
>receiving mail. This is after I've sent them an email
>telling them where to find unsubscribe info! Too bad
>email software doesn't have "bonehead" filters.
>
>To the 99% of you who don't do this stuff, thanks! Seeing
>the list work for all of us is really satisfying. I
>remember reading a FAQ that stated that all email lists
>go through stages - right now it's becoming a teenager
>and the "list mom" (me) is trying to figure out the
>best way to proceed. If I throw temper tantrums let me
>know.....
>
>
>
>____________________________________________________________________
>Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/
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>
>
>


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>From chitaworldnet.att.net Fri Apr 18 17:29:55 1997 From: chitaworldnet.att.net
Subject: Better brakes for F-250?
To: FORDTRUCKSlofcom.com

I have a 1985 F-250 with the 6.9L International Harvester diesel engine.
I'm wondering if anybody can point me to a source for an aftermarket brake "boost" or improvement scheme? It isn't dangerous or anything, but I'd feel better with more stopping power when carrying heavy loads.




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>From duckdonpacific.net Fri Apr 18 17:53:29 1997 From: Don Grossman Subject: Re: Napco parts
To: FORDTRUCKSlofcom.com

Stuart Varner wrote:

> Are the rad. supports the same on F-100 and F-250?
> >


Yes

--
Don Grossman
duckdonpacific.net

It's hard to do 90 on a speed limit budget.......

65 Ford F-150 4x4 (soon to be 72 Mustang) 63 Ford F-250 4x4


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>From payneplatinum.com Fri Apr 18 17:58:35 1997 From: PAYNK (Ken Payne) Subject: Re: My Gripes -Reply -Reply
To: FORDTRUCKSlofcom.com

Sorry you can't get the Bronco II info. Don't worry though, as the list grows we'll gain more Bronco knowledge. Growth has slowed but we still gain 5+ users a day.

For a Ford car group point your browser to our homepage: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~fordtrucks
and follow the "[ Other Ford email lists ]" link. On that page you'll find a link to the Fordnatics list homepage. This list covers all Ford cars. The knowledge there is good but most of the discussion centers around hi-performance V8s.

>>> Jwilk 04/18/97 04:19pm >>> Thanx for the list, Ken. Tough I have not recieved any response as of yet to my 85 Bronco II u-joint inquiries, I still think this e-mail group is a GREAT idea! Keep up the good work, "Mom"..>;)

P.S. Is there a Ford car e-mail group. I have questions about an 86 escort...




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>From duckdonpacific.net Fri Apr 18 18:00:06 1997 From: Don Grossman Subject: Re: Floatation tires
To: FORDTRUCKSlofcom.com

David Herzog wrote:
>
> I have a 94 F-150 4x2 with the original P235x75x15 tires on it. I am
> looking at a set of Michelin or BF Goodrick floatation tires size
> 31x10.50x15. Will they fit, and if so, will they rub during hard turns,
> etc. I would be mounting them on Ford cast aluminum 7.5 inch wide wheels.
> thanks to all
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> DAVID L. HERZOG Ph.D.,PROFESSOR OF BUSINESS & MANAGEMENT
> ST. LOUIS COMMUNITY COLLEGE AT FLORISSANT VALLEY
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> ST. LOUIS, MO 63615
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Turning should not be a problem but the bumps in the road or driving with a heavy load might not do the fenders any good.

I had a set of 31's on an 87 and they would just come up and rub the fenders and I think the wheel opening on the front of the 94's are smaller than on the 87's.

--
Don Grossman
duckdonpacific.net

It's hard to do 90 on a speed limit budget.......

65 Ford F-150 4x4 (soon to be 72 Mustang) 63 Ford F-250 4x4


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>From duckdonpacific.net Fri Apr 18 18:06:03 1997 From: Don Grossman Subject: Re: Hi -Reply
To: FORDTRUCKSlofcom.com

>
> Blasphemy! Someone said S10.... I'm melting....
>
> Sorry, I could not help the childish outburst.

That thing he said....yucky
--
Don Grossman
duckdonpacific.net

It's hard to do 90 on a speed limit budget.......

65 Ford F-150 4x4 (soon to be 72 Mustang) 63 Ford F-250 4x4


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>From JohnMcNmicom.com Fri Apr 18 18:09:46 1997 From: John Macnamara Subject: Re: Better brakes for F-250?
To: FORDTRUCKSlofcom.com

chitaworldnet.att.net wrote:
>
> I have a 1985 F-250 with the 6.9L International Harvester diesel engine.
> I'm wondering if anybody can point me to a source for an aftermarket brake
> "boost" or improvement scheme? It isn't dangerous or anything, but I'd feel
> better with more stopping power when carrying heavy loads.
>
> ____________________________________________________________________
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I checked with my local 4wd shop and you can buy carbon metallic brake pads for the front discs for around $60 a set. They are supposed to provide a noticeable improvement in braking relative to the original pads. Obviously there are other factors like the condition of your rubber flex lines. There are stainless braided flex lines available and I would think this would increase the pedal pressure. And lastly the master cylinder seals could be causing some mushyness in the pedal.

Just my .02.

Thanks John MacNamara
78 F250 4X4 Supercab
67 Gt500


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>From BMiller326aol.com Fri Apr 18 18:36:19 1997 From: BMiller326aol.com
Subject: unsubscribe
To: FORDTRUCKSlofcom.com

please remove me from your list..


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>From jamesde-z.net Fri Apr 18 18:39:23 1997 From: "James A. Doty"
Subject: mileage
To: FORDTRUCKSlofcom.com

Hi all:

Been reading messages in the group for the last couple of weeks now and finally
decided to ask a question.

I have a 1978 E-150 w/351W (I believe.) & C6 Tranny.

The engine seems to run fine, it starts easily and runs smoothly although I do need to turn down the fast idle a bunch.

Although it's running okey I'm only getting about 8mpg.

I also have a 1975 E-150 with a 302 & C6 Tranny that gets 17mpg so I'm pretty sure I could get better mileage than 8mpg.

What should I start checking to find the problem. My poor van gets 8mpg if I drive on the freeway, or in the city, or up a mountain pass, in the rain, in the
snow, on warm sunny days. If nothing else it is consistant.

======================
James A. Doty
Assistant Web Master
jamesde-z.net
E-Z Net, Inc.
209 NE 120th. Ave., Suite B
Vancouver, WA 98684
(360) 260-1122
KI7EL


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