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97up-list Digest Mon, 22 Jan 2001 Volume: 2001  Issue: 009

In This Issue:
piston slap, AGAIN
Re: piston slap, AGAIN
Re: piston slap, AGAIN
exhaust brake
Cracking doors and rattling engine-98 150

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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:47:29 -0500
From: "Norm  Hurst" <nhurstsarnoff.com>
Subject: piston slap, AGAIN


Last March my dealer replaced the motor in my 97 F150 4.6 under warranty because I complained that
the engine "rattled when cold".

It ran quietly right after they put it in, but now with several about 10k miles and with the cold
weather, it's doing it again!

Did they put in a Canadian 4.6, i.e. a known-bad motor?  How do I determine the factory of origin
for a replacement engine?

I assume that one year parts and labor would cover replacing this motor again.  Any reason I should
doubt that?

-Norm


Service Bulletin Number: 996034
Bulletin Sequence Number: 694
Date of Bulletin: 9905
NHTSA Item Number: SB606947
Make: FORD TRUCK
Model: F150
Year: 1997
Component: ENGINE
Summary: EXPERIENCING A ENGINE KNOCK AT COLD START-UP. *TT EXPERIENCING A ENGINE KNOCK AT COLD
START-UP. *TT

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From: James Washer <washertrlp.com>
Subject: Re: piston slap, AGAIN
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:01:41 -0800


The sad thing is that my 2000 5.4 seems to have the piston slap problem..
Is this STILL an issue with Fords.. and with the 5.4 engine, or do I have a
weird one-of-a-kind case here. ~37k miles when it started.
- jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Norm  Hurst [SMTP:nhurstsarnoff.com]
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 8:47 AM
To: truck list 97-up ford
Subject: [97up-list] piston slap, AGAIN


Last March my dealer replaced the motor in my 97 F150 4.6 under warranty
because I complained that
the engine "rattled when cold".

It ran quietly right after they put it in, but now with several about 10k
miles and with the cold
weather, it's doing it again!

Did they put in a Canadian 4.6, i.e. a known-bad motor?  How do I determine
the factory of origin
for a replacement engine?

I assume that one year parts and labor would cover replacing this motor
again.  Any reason I should
doubt that?

-Norm


Service Bulletin Number: 996034
Bulletin Sequence Number: 694
Date of Bulletin: 9905
NHTSA Item Number: SB606947
Make: FORD TRUCK
Model: F150
Year: 1997
Component: ENGINE
Summary: EXPERIENCING A ENGINE KNOCK AT COLD START-UP. *TT EXPERIENCING A
ENGINE KNOCK AT COLD
START-UP. *TT


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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:11:56 -0500
From: Jean Marc Chartier <jmc.chartiersympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: piston slap, AGAIN




Norm Hurst wrote:

> Last March my dealer replaced the motor in my 97 F150 4.6 under warranty because I complained that
> the engine "rattled when cold".
>
> It ran quietly right after they put it in, but now with several about 10k miles and with the cold
> weather, it's doing it again!
>
> Did they put in a Canadian 4.6, i.e. a known-bad motor?  How do I determine the factory of origin
> for a replacement engine?
>
> I assume that one year parts and labor would cover replacing this motor again.  Any reason I should
> doubt that?
>
> -Norm
>

Norm,

     Count the nuts holding the Cam cover that has the oil fill hole.  11 bolts and it is a Romeo
engine and 14 bolts and it is a Windsor.  On the other Cam Cover it is 11 bolts, Romeo and 13 bolts,
Windsor.  There should also be a sticker showing the engine build location.

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier


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From: "Ray and Diane" <tworiteshome.com>
Subject: exhaust brake
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 17:58:33 -0500


Has anyone had a exhaust brake installed
on there diesel truck,I pull a rather heavy fifth wheel
with my 1999 f-350 supercab superduty 4 wheel
drive truck,and I'm looking for a little extra braking help.
If so how much was the cost of brake,how much to install
it?What name brand did you purchase,do you like it?
Thanks for any response,Ray
e-mail:tworiteshome.com


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From: "Randy Goolsby" <rockinghorsesolidnet.com>
Subject: Cracking doors and rattling engine-98 150
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 06:44:04 -0800

Hey List,
In the next week or so I'm heading to the local Ford dealership to do battle with the Service Dept. and I need some info. Figured you guys could help.
First, has FoMoCo actually acknowledged that the door cracking problem exists? Is there a TSB or recall notice number associated with this problem that could be used as ammo by me to get the dealerships undivided attention, possibly streamlining the "stupid look" process?
Secondly, This 4.2 sounds somewhat like a diesel (not real loud yet) on a cold start and the noise doesn't subside much,even after reaching operating temp/being driven for a while.
I've heard these 4.2s (a damn fine engine,otherwise) have experienced wrist pin knock but have no info on either the problem, how widespread the problem is, or whether or not Ford admits that a problem exists. Again, TSBs or Ford administrative numbers or notices would be helpful.
According to Ford, the warranty expires on our truck in July. My wife took it in and talked to the service manager once about the door cracks, who claimed no knowledge of the problem. The engine rattling wasn't addressed.
I'm not going to put up with any crap from these people.If necessary,I'll retain an attorney and park it in front of their service bay until they agree to fix these problems.
I have 4 or more years of payments left and this rig costed far too much money NOT to have it taken care of promptly.
Thanks for the List info thus far an these problems. My hat's off to you guys and I'd appreciate any specific info that'd assist me in getting this BS resolved.
Randy Goolsby
'94 Bronco (60K,mint & paid for:-) 98 F150 XLT/STX,red-still lots left!



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