fordtrucks80up-digest Saturday, April 4 1998 Volume 02 : Number 124

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In this issue:

Re: V4 ["John W. Barron" ]
Re: Skinny/fat was: F-150 vs F-250 Brakes [Ryan Penner
ADMIN: Recent posts lost [Ken Payne ]
RE: F-150 vs F-250 Brakes [sbest ]
re: Brakes, again [sbest ]
Re: Brakes, again [Run351 ]
I-6 Question [Phil Dueck ]
starter, again ["Casey Vandor" ]



Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 19:20:02 -0500
From: "John W. Barron"
Subject: Re: V4

Once,during the 60's I was sent to England for six weeks. I was provided
a dated Zephyer by Ford. This car had a V4 engine. I don't remember what
year it was, but it had very high mileage, and developed a rod knock before
I returned it to the motor pool.

John W. Barron

At 05:07 PM 4/3/1998 -0500, Jim Bielecki wrote:
>>I know there is no 4 cylinder in a ford truck. I have also never heard of
>>a V4 in anything, lots of I4's, but never a V4.
>Ford did offer a gasoline V4, years back, in some of their European cars. I
>believe, but am not 100% sure, that it was based on the venerable Cologne V6
>design which is still being produced today (4.0L for the Explorer/Ranger).
>These V4 engines also saw use in the U.S. in some industrial products. A
>snow groomer I saw back in the mid 80's was equipped with one of these
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Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 18:18:49 -0700
From: Ryan Penner
Subject: Re: Skinny/fat was: F-150 vs F-250 Brakes

David McDonald wrote:
> Beaman, James wrote:
> >
> > Chris Hedemark wrote:
> >
> > > Seriously, the skinny tires that I see on a lot of trucks are bad for
> > > traction (affecting both acceleration and deceleration as well as
> > > off-pavement capabilities). Going to even a slightly wider tire will
> > > help this tremendously (although possibly being slightly detrimental to
> > > fuel economy and acceleration).
> > >
> > It is also detrimental to load rating on the 3/4 and 1 ton trucks.
> > Currently the E rating is only available in the 235/85R16 and the 245/75R16.
> > That being said, I will soon be going to the wider D rated tires on my F250
> > since I like the wider patch and looks and I have yet to load my truck to
> > the limit.
> >
> > James Beaman
> >
> > Houston, Texas
> >
> Ok Guys, It's a traction tug o war in my driveway... My skinny siped
> 235/85r16 Dunlop Radial Rovers against yer fat tires... Might warn you first
> tho... My driveway is in the mountains and covered with ice half the year.
> (and we're doin the tug o war on the ice).
> I'll win. I promise :) Heck, I'll even go uphill :)
> You can have your bigger patch anyday, I'll take more lbs/sq inch to get my
> traction.
> Dave 'skinny tire' McDonald
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I live in Colorado and I have skinny tires on. I used to have Fat
tires, man I could just sit there and pretend like I was a dragster and
go no where. With the skinny's all it takes is a little go juice and I
am off. No spinning with skinny tires.


Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 21:49:38 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: Recent posts lost

Due to a configuration error on my part, several emails
didn't get posted to the lists, especially if you use
a Microsoft email product. This has now been corrected.
Wait a few hours and if you post doesn't show up, send it again.

Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts


Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:31:09 -0400
From: sbest
Subject: RE: F-150 vs F-250 Brakes

>From: "Chad Royse"
>I have to agree with you. I wasn't going to bother the group with my brake
>problems, but being as it is a hot topic... :)
>I have a 97 250HD 4x4 460 SC LB. I know that when a vehicle sits for a day
>or two in the rain that the brakes are extra sensitive due to surface rust.

Got the same problem on my E350 Van Chad.
Only it doesn't even have to rain and it is both rear wheels every morning.
Replaced the shoes only once over 100,000 kms, did it before and after.
Cleaned the shoes and drums, roughed up the drums, polished the drums,
adjusted the shoe clearance, everything. Still locks up on the first stop
of the morning. Usually at the end of the driveway.

Steve Best, Nova Scotia,
6.9 litre diesel Ford van, full-time 4 wheel drive
"Hang on kids, we're going through..."
4 wheel drive van page:
Tire chains, camping gear, tools and first aid stuff too...


Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:31:12 -0400
From: sbest
Subject: re: Brakes, again

>From: Larry Wiandt
>I've got a '93 F350 4x4 crew cab that I have never felt had the greatest
>brakes. For one thing it will NOT lock up the brakes no matter how hard I
>try. In fact the pedal will go almost to the floor under extreme braking.
>After looking through some of the archives, I have seen numerous comments
>about pads and I was thinking about trying a different brand but I am now
>wondering about the booster or maybe a vacuum porblem. Has anyone had a
>similar problem?

My pedal is very firm and good vacuum from my vacuum pump (diesel) on
my 1987 E350 van (with F250 front axle but worked the same with E350 axle)
and I am hardly able to lock all four wheels on good pavement, especially
with 35" tall tires on the van. It would lock up at slower speeds with
organic pads on front but they would get too hot and fade dangerously at
higher speeds.

While the van still stops reliably and with great haste, this is a less
than desireable condition. I have new rotors, NAPA premium metallic front
pads (couldn't get anything but organic from Ford dealer??? tried them but
they faded badly) good powerbooster, good vacuum pump, rebuilt calipers,
good fluid and flushed lines.

Any suggestions on why these big Fords would be hard to lock up?

Steve Best, Nova Scotia,
6.9 litre diesel Ford van, full-time 4 wheel drive
"Hang on kids, we're going through..."
4 wheel drive van page:
Tire chains, camping gear, tools and first aid stuff too...


Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 23:22:19 EST
From: Run351
Subject: Re: Brakes, again

Call Downs Ford..1800 directory can give u info on #.. they have a
front rotor and HD brake kit ($349) that will stop your truck..Also change
your Bake fluid to
DOT4 brake fluid ..this will firm up your pedal..I did this to my 93"
Lightning..and you know I have to be able to stop...w/this trucks speed..


Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 23:28:45 -0800
From: Phil Dueck
Subject: I-6 Question

I have the 300 I-6 in a 95. I've had it for a year and have been very
happy with it. I have added a few extras for looks but does anyone know
of any good performance modifications that can be made?

Graham Dueck
Vancouver, BC


Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 23:30:00 -0900
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: starter, again

Ok, my starter wouldn't turn again today (after just cleaning the connection
and now replacing the cable from the batt to solanoid and the wire from batt
to ground. Should I pull the starter and have it checked to see if maybe
the bearings are shot, or what else can I replace to fix the problem?


p.s. I think everybody who wanted the calvin pic got it, if I missed you let
me know.


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