Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 09:36:40 -0600 (MDT)
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Subject: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #4

fordtrucks80up-digest Wednesday, August 20 1997 Volume 01 : Number 004


Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 18:37:08 -0500
From: Ryan Kinkaid
Subject: Quick questions

Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 00:08:07 -0500
From: Ryan Kinkaid
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How can I tell if my truck has a tow package (either physically or by a

Also, does anyone know if Chilton on Haynes is publishing a repair
manual for the '97 anytime soon?




Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 07:29:38 -0400
From: Rick
Subject: Truck Specs

Can someone give me a pointer on a detailed list of specs for
pickups the F250 and F350. I'm particularly interested in things
you can do to increase the payload and towing capacity.

I'm wading through a decision on options like 4WD, added truck weights
(read here 'subtracted' from payload) for things like crew cab vs king
cab. I'd also like to know what adding dual rear wheels adds or
subtracts from GVWR or GCVWR.

I've talked to folks who seemed to have access to this sort of info,
but have never seen it. The specs I've seen are pretty general and
talking to most folks seems to be really subjective.
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* Rick Waldbart *


Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 08:19:35 -0500
From: Mark Roberts
Subject: how tow package?

You should be able to see a tranny cooler on the front of the radiator.
It looks like a "baby" radiator and sits on the front of the regular

That may not be the best answer but it is a start.



Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 09:32:13, -0500
Subject: Truck Specs

Rick, I work for a Ford dealer, so I can help you with your
First of all, a crew cab weighs more than a supercab, so it brings
down the payload and GVWR. Dual rear wheels helps out substantially
for payload and GVWR. Adding four wheel drive to any truck will bring
down the payload because it adds weight (wight depends on truck-F-250
or F-350). One can bring the truck to a spring shop to increase
payload. For max GCVW, it is 20,000 lbs. for F-250 HD or F-350. To
get the most towing capacity out of your truck, you should get the 4.
10 gears and the 7.3L Power Stroke. In the F-250 HD and F-350, the
460 and 7.3L have the same towing capacity using the 4.10 gears (10,
000 lbs.) , but the Power Stroke will out perform the 460 in anything.
If you want to spend the extra money to get it, I recommend it
because of better mileage, more torque, and better overall
Here are some specs for you to look at:

Body Style Rear Wheels GVWR
Max Payload

F-250 Reg Cab 4x2 Single 8600
F-250 Reg Cab 4x4 Single 8600
F-250 Supercab 4x2 Single 8800
3835 139" wb 6.5' box
F-250 Supercab 4x2 Single 8800
3890 155" wb 8' box
F-250 Supercab 4x4 Single 8800
3470 139" wb 6.5' box
F-250 Supercab 4x4 Single 8800
3540 155" wb 8' box
F-250 Crew Cab 4x2 Single 8800
3510 152" wb 6.5' box
F-250 Crew Cab 4x4 Single 8800
3070 152" wb 6.5' box

F-350 Reg Cab 4x2 Single 8800
F-350 Reg Cab 4x2 Dual 10,000
F-350 Reg Cab 4x4 Single 9000
F-350 Supercab 4x2 Dual 10,000
F-350 Crew Cab 4x2 Single 9200
3985 168" wb 8' box
F-350 Crew Cab 4x2 Dual 10,000
4260 168" wb 8' box
F-350 Crew Cab 4x4 Single 9200
3540 168" wb 8' box

These are all 1997 F-Series specs. If your set on buying a truck now,
well go ahead a make your decision. If you want me to, I can help
you and get one for you. If you want to weight for the body style
change for '99, I can start to order those in Jan. of 1998. Also, if
you plan to remove the box and install a different body (contractor
body, ect.), consider a F-Super Duty. For 1997, they are regular cab,
dual wheels, 4x2, have a 15,000 lb. GVWR, a 14,000 lb. towing
capacity, a 26,000 lb GCWR and a max payload of 9570 lbs. For 1999,
you can get a V10 or 7.3L, 5 or 6 speed manual, an auto tranny with a
PTO opening, reg. cab or crew cab, and 4x2 or 4x4, and up to a 17,500
GVWR. If you really want a heavy duty F-Super Duty, you can get a 19,
000 lb. GVWR, reg cab, 4x2, V10 or 7.3L, 5 or 6 speed manual, or the
auto transmission. Its up to you to decide. I know this got pretty
long, but you wanted some information, and now you have it.

Josh Tenney


Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 09:37:09, -0500
Subject: Quick questions-Answer


If your truck has the towing package, visually it will have the frame
mounted hitch and wiring harness. Otherwise if you still have the
window sticker, it will be listed under the options on the right side
of the sticker. If you don't have that, go back to your dealer and
ask him. Just by looking should tell you if you have it or not.



Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 09:44:15, -0500
Subject: Ranger Performance

Can anyone tell me how much power is actually achieved from a set of
headers and a cat back system for a 4.OL? Also, I'm considering
installing a bigger throttle body, a larger mass air sensor, a K&N
filter on my '98 when it arrives. Does any of this stuff improve
performance like it claims, or does make the engine run rough like
I've heard? If anyone has any experience with these performance
upgrades please write to me and let me know. Also, what kind of
suspension system should I choose to drop it 2" in front and 3-4" in
the rear? Is belltech a good choice? How about shocks? Is bilstein a
good choice? Please give me advice.



Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 08:46:55 -0700
From: "J. Martin"
Subject: Re: how tow package?

Mark Roberts wrote:

> You should be able to see a tranny cooler on the front of the
> radiator.
> It looks like a "baby" radiator and sits on the front of the regular
> radiator.
> That may not be the best answer but it is a start.
> mdr

Just don't get the A/C condenser confused w/the tranny cooler. The
A/C condenser looks alot like a baby-radiator, too. You can verify which
one it is by locating the lines going to and from it. Of course, the A/C
lines will go to the A/C compressor and into the evaporator coil (in the
plenum "box" on the firewall).

Never thought about the tranny cooler as being an indicator of a tow
pkg...sounds like a good start!

Josh --> '88 Ranger


Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 09:02:28 -0500
From: "Beaman, James"
Subject: test



Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 11:22:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Randy L. Hatcher"
Subject: 2.0 Ranger Performance

is there a way to get more hi-power performance out
of the 2.0 with stick shift,without a lot of $$..
if not,I am considering going to a V-8--
which one would be better to put in a 302 or 351w,351c???
Randy Hatcher

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those that have minds don't use them,those that do can't think straight.


Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 10:35:28 -0500
From: "Beaman, James"
Subject: '83 F100 specs

I have a friend who just bought a 1983 F100 with the carburated 300 six.
The rear axle code is 18 and the transmission code is T. Is this the
A4OD? What is the rear axle gear ratio? What would the GCWR be for
this truck? I am guessing 6000 - 7000 lbs. Finally, what kind of
mileage should he expect to get around town and on the highway? Thanks
for the information from anyone who is able to look it up.

James Beaman
Houston, Texas


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