Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 03:50:28 -0700 (MST)
From: (fordtrucks80up-digest)
Subject: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #275

fordtrucks80up-digest Monday, December 22 1997 Volume 01 : Number 275

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Re: ADMIN: chat [ (Lamar Zabielski)]
Re: 1999 Ford "Suburban" [DUALIE ]
Re: 300 I-6 sounds like a diesel ["The Lublin Family" ]
Re: 1999 Ford "Suburban" [Shadorite ]
[none] [bruce krohn ]
350 Powerstroke crewcab ["Steve Ford_Man" ]



Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 21:57:23 -0700 (MST)
From: (Lamar Zabielski)
Subject: Re: ADMIN: chat

At 10:21 PM 12/21/97 -0800, Randy wrote:
>I wrote:
>> Ken Payne wrote:
>> >
>> Tell you what Ken, let me wait until I see how the Java script does,
>> then you can let me know. Or rather I'll let you know if I still would
>> want to get an IRC channel.
>> Randy
>oops, that wasn't supposed to go to the list, sorry. :-)

Hi Randy,


Seriously tho, I've been an IRC channel owner/op for two years. During that
time have kept up with various chat modes, using basic truck power (486/33
). Web chat does not compare to the quickness, rapid fire dialog that IRC
can offer. But don't use one of the large IRC nets. Anarchy!!

I found a smaller net to be an agreed upon rendezvous address. It had a NO
piracy or sex rule, but now it's going to 'pay to access'. no thanks.

So the current home for my IRC family is moving to Starnet on the 31st,
because it is a clean net, growing, and free. Imo, good choice Ken!

IRC is kinda a pain to get ez, but when you do, it is a Blast! (for some
it's a dud, shrug)

There's lot'sa help around, if that is stumbling block.

Over time people will develop gathering times, and bonds. It's Great! Don't
become addicted!

z ya,
zzeb on IRC


Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 23:56:45 EST
Subject: Re: 1999 Ford "Suburban"

I have seen the prodical son of the expididition it should have a GVW of
around 3000# and the same frount clip as the mysitical 1999 F-350 and hopfully
in my wishes have a powerstroke.

thats all I know.



Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 00:03:50 -0500
From: "The Lublin Family"
Subject: Re: 300 I-6 sounds like a diesel

TO the best of my knowledge, the 300 six sounds like a diesel because of valve train slop, especially in the lifters. You may
have bad lifters. I have had 4 of the 300 Six engines and they all made the "Diesel sound" that you describe. It does not
effect running and it probably hurts you more to hear it making that noise than it hurts the engine. I used to think the
problem was in timing and set the timing many different ways and tried hi-octane gas. That did not help at all. You will just
have to live with that noise.

Chris "Lube" Lublin
300 Six devotee.


Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 00:10:35 EST
From: Shadorite
Subject: Re: 1999 Ford "Suburban"

Hey All,
O.K. ya'll. My friend at the test track, has come through once
again. This is what he "let slip" this time. The one they are currently
testing has a 7.3 Powerstroke with a "M6OD" (6 speed manual tranny) A new,
heavy duty transfer case, with part time 4 wheel drive. (Sorry but still no
specs.) He also let slip that they are expecting 2 more of these things out
there. 1 is supposed to have the 6.8 V10 with a 4R100 (4 speed tranny) and,
get this, daul rear wheels. Also with the part time 4 wheel drive and instead
of a tailgate style rearend 2 swing out doors. The 2nd is supposed to be one
with a 6.8 V10, M5OD and only 2 wheel drive. I wish he would share more
specifics like gear ratios, horse/torque power and weight capacities. Well as
soon as i find out more I will share it.

Ford: The Best Never Rest!
Josh Wolff


Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 00:03:41 -0600
From: bruce krohn
Subject: [none]

I own a 1987 Bronco II 4x4 aod, electronic tranfercase. Before I replaced the
tranny last spring the 4x4 worked fine. After replacing the tranny, the 4x4 does
not work at all. I thought I either pinched a wire or pulled one loose and
checked them. Everything was fine. I checked the transfer case computer
module, and that works fine according to specs (led blinking when it
should). I replaced the elctric motor that is supposed to engage/disengage
4x4 at the transfer case. It still doesn't work. I replaced the hard
switches that are suppose to control the elctronic motor. I checked fuses,
voltages and continuity on the wires going into the transfer case control
module, the wires coming out of the module to the electric motor. Everything
checks out fine. I pulled the electric motor off again and tested it, it
works fine. I checked the transfer case out and it is in great shape. In
other words, I've put alot of time and money into this and I still don't
have 4x4 working. What have I missed. Obviously there is no power reaching
the transfer case electric motor, but why?!? Is there a relay or fusible
link somewhere in-line? If so, then where. I have a fairly detailed
troubleshooting manual from Borg-Warner, and everything they say to check
for has been checked at lease a couple hundred times, and it all checks out
ok. There are no short circuits or split insulation on any of the wires? I
have a fairly extensive electronics background, but this one has me totally
stumped. I live in Minnesota, and so far have been very luck not to have
received very much snow, yet, but it's coming. Any help with this would sure
be appreciated. Thank you.

Bruce Krohn


Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 00:06:19 PST
From: "Steve Ford_Man"
Subject: 350 Powerstroke crewcab

THE Awesome F-350 Powerstroke Diesel - dreams of many.
Down here in Moab (home of jeep safari and truck lovers) a man named
Eddie owns a 97 F-350 Crewcab Powerstroke Diesel (a $40,000 high
performance piece of machinery) is putting it up for sale. It may be a
rumor but people say he wants a Dodge. I'm sorry but I think this is
rediculous! Even the biggest mopar v-10 Quadcab cannot compare to this
Ford Diesel. I don't have room to argue because I don't own any of
these trucks, but can someone please tell me why or why not someone
might do this.
Thankyou, A concerned Ford Lover

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