Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 03:50:22 -0700 (MST)
From: (fordtrucks80up-digest)
Subject: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #270

fordtrucks80up-digest Friday, December 19 1997 Volume 01 : Number 270

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In this issue:

Small truck list [Splash 689 ]
Small truck list [Midwest96 ]
Re: Warning Chime [Midwest96 ]
Re: int. wiper relay: 92 F150 ["Joe Merchak" ]
E40D Trans Trouble(Bothwells) [ (Randall Goolsby)]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #269 [Bill Funk ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #269 [Bill Funk ]
Re: Derek's ww "click" [ (Randall Goolsby)]
Re: Turbo vs Super [Bill Funk ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #268 [RR5699 ]
Re: warning chime (Jose Castillo) [ (Randall Goolsb]
Small truck list [Stu Rea ]
Re: PLEASE HELP: strange vibration/lugging (DONT WORRY) [DUALIE



Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 23:25:50 EST
From: Splash 689
Subject: Small truck list

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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 23:15:11 EST
From: Midwest96
Subject: Small truck list



Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 23:50:01 EST
From: Midwest96
Subject: Re: Warning Chime

Door sensor switch is at the front of the door, connected to the truck itself.
It looks like a peg, and sticks out about half an inch. Check to see if dome
light comes on too, otherwise it may just be the sensor. To get it out,
unscrew it, and it will pull out about 3 inches. Hope that helps.

Craig {}


Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 23:54:38 -0500
From: "Joe Merchak"
Subject: Re: int. wiper relay: 92 F150

That click you hear is the relay engaging... it is normal
- -----Original Message-----
From: Derek Whiteside
Date: Thursday, December 18, 1997 4:59 PM
Subject: int. wiper relay: 92 F150

>My (new to me) 92 F150 4.9L 5speed XLT 4x2 makes an audible "click"
>whenever I have the wipers on intermittent. Sounds like it's coming
>from the passenger's side of the cab. Clicks every time the int.
>wipers kick in. I am wondering if this is normal, or do I have
>something to worry about? I don't want to be stuck without wipers here
>in Rainy Oregon...
>Derek Whiteside
>ps: I have only been on the list about 10 days now, and have found it
>to be very helpful. thanks, everyone, for your input.
> >
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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 21:13:49 -0800
From: (Randall Goolsby)
Subject: E40D Trans Trouble(Bothwells)

Wow,sounds like you guys have had more than your share of problems with
your E40D.A couple questions: Was your truck equipped with the towing
pkg?My 94 Bronco is so equipped.In addition to rear sway bars,HD cooling
system,pre-wired (6or7pin?)plug etc.,was also equipped with an engine
oil cooler and a "plate-type" Trans oil cooler.Are you doing serious
towing or pulling?I have heard that the E4OD is a decendent of the
C6,which was (IMHO) the strongest they made.I've got the same one in my
Bronco and have no complaints,other than the shifting is too soft and
really don't think that does the clutch packs much good.I've been
considering replacing the valve body with an aftermarket valve body
that'll firm it up some.They're about $300. and I found them on the net
someplace awhile back.I personally will probably not do much towing with
the Bronco due to the short wheelbase,even though it's fully
capable.Right now I'm primarily shooting for longevity.Frankly, I don't
think your prior rebuilder earned his money and I'd tell him so.Hope
this gives you some ideas.. Randy
94 Bronco EB 85 F-250 4X4


Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 22:30:45 -0700
From: Bill Funk
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #269

> From: Derek Whiteside
> Subject: 300 cid i-6: what grade of gas? timing variations?
> My 92 F150 has the 4.9l straight six. I heard someone mention that
> this engine does not like regular (87 octane) unleaded gas; is this
> true? Anyone?
> I did not get an owner's manual with the truck, so any discussion on
> this would be great.

Why not tell us: does your engine like regular grade gas? If so, who
cares what we think?

> Also, does anyone have any feelings about timing settings for this
> engine? Are the factory settings best, or is there somehting better?
> Not currently pinging, but....

If it's not pinging, I guess that answers your question about the gas
grade, doesn't it?Why wouldn't the factory setting for the timing be
good? After all, they designed it; maybe they had some idea of what they
were doing?

> Derek Whiteside

Seriously, it should like regular just fine.
As for the timing, is there a specific problem your'e having that you
think changing the timing will fix? It's where it is for some very good
reasons. Whiuls changing it can, in some cases, give you more power,
it's more likely to decrease your economy, increase the load on your
cooling system, introduce pinging, and/or reduce power. Unless there's a
specific problem that's ignition timing related, I'd leave it alone at
the factory specs.

Bill Funk


Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 22:33:56 -0700
From: Bill Funk
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #269

> From: Derek Whiteside
> Subject: PLEASE HELP: strange vibration/lugging
> I have a 1992 F150 4x2 Supercab XLT. Has the 300 cid I-6 and a 5
> speed.
> I'm hoping that there are others on the list with a similar
> engine/tranny combo-- My truck has 45000 miles on it, and the only
> thing that worries me at all about it is this 'strange vibration.'
> Basically, I notice this vibration/noise in 1st, second, third, and
> (if I try) 4th gear. It seems to happen at a certain engine speed,
> below 2000 rpm, I'd say. Friends whohave ridden with me (and heard the
> noise) say it sounds like a vibration or lugging. It will be louder or
> softer, depending on how much I'm into the gas pedal. In my opinion,
> at it's worst, it sounds a little like a diesel engine. It does not,
> however, sound like knocking or pinging, but I've only heard it on a
> few cars. Neither of my friends say it sounds like knock/ping either.
> So, does anyone know what I'm talking about? It may be just some
> normal harmonic vibration or something, but I'm worried about fuel/air
> mix problems or maybe a torn/busted motor or tranny mount?
> Thanks,
> Derek Whiteside

I'll bet the noise isn't there unless you are intot he gas, right?
It's called lugging the engine. Downshift, and get the RPMs up a little;
let the engine work.



Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 21:32:48 -0800
From: (Randall Goolsby)
Subject: Re: Derek's ww "click"

It's normal.If it doesn't click,then worry. Randy


Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 22:39:28 -0700
From: Bill Funk
Subject: Re: Turbo vs Super

> From: JOUZA1
> Subject: Turbo vs Super
> I am thinking of purchasing a supercharger or turbocharger for my 4.0
> V6. But
> I am also going to keep it as my daily driver so I was wondering wich
> one is
> actually better for the engine. I plan on keeping my truck for years
> to come
> because I like it so much. I also dont want to loose the pretty
> decent gas
> milage from the V6 wich will help me keep that mpg?

And either one will reduce the life of the engine.
You simply cannot super- or turbo-charge an engine and get free power.
You pay for it in reduced engine life and gas use. (Also tires)
The bottom end and the rings are not designed for the extra power and
pressures. The head gasket is another weak point.
If you really want more power *AND* reliability, go with a larger
engine, or rebuild the one you have to handle the extra power.
Otherwise, you stand a very good chance of damaging that engine over

Bill Funk.


Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 00:53:05 EST
From: RR5699
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #268

please take me off list


Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 21:54:04 -0800
From: (Randall Goolsby)
Subject: Re: warning chime (Jose Castillo)

Jose, Try taking some tape and tape the switches down.Do one side,drive
as normal a few days,remove the tape and repeat the process on the other
side.This should at least isolate which side is the problem.Use
something like duct tape that is fairly tough and that has a good
adhesive.I had a similar problem with my 92 Aerostar-work truck.Drove me
crazy for several months till I found a small piece of debris the
latch plate causing the problem. It was about 1/16th inch diameter....


Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 21:58:11 -0800
From: Stu Rea
Subject: Small truck list



Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 01:47:42 EST
Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP: strange vibration/lugging (DONT WORRY)

So far every thing you discribed is normal in BOTH 300ci 5speed i owened a
94(may god rest its chassis (Wrecked)) and my replacement 96 when you get
below the trucks power band any truck will naturally lug until you pring the
rpm's up. As for the wipers. completely normal just crank up the raidio. AS




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