Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 04:00:44 -0600 (MDT)
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Subject: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #101

fordtrucks80up-digest Wednesday, September 10 1997 Volume 01 : Number 101

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In this issue:

If you don't mind me asking? $ on F350 crew PS [Mitch Biarsky
PowerStroke vs 460 vs Triton V10 [Mitch Biarsky
Re: Ford V-8 [Ezekial ]
Re: PowerStroke vs 460 vs Triton V10 [Ken Miller
Upgrades to '92 F-150 302 []
Re: a warning []
1996 350 Dually ["Jim Lohse" ]



Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 23:08:06 -0400
From: Mitch Biarsky
Subject: If you don't mind me asking? $ on F350 crew PS



I was at my local Ford dealer last week in NJ and he quoted me $500.00
over the
dealers invoice for a F350 crew cab PS loaded. The sticker price was
close to
36K, and he was willing to sell for $500 over invoice, about 32K. It's
just like
shopping for a car, do your homework up front, negotiate a fair profit
over the
dealers invoice and be willing to WALK AWAY.

Mitch (waiting for the '99s)
'86 F250 4x4

> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 17:16:38 -0700
> From: cfoyeBayNetworks.COM (Chris Foye)
> Subject: If you don't mind me asking? $ on F350 crew PS
> Hey Guys,
> Well, I'm getting more serious about getting the powerstroke and even went
> down to a local dealer who has a few of the 97 f350 crew powerstrokes on
> the lot. They were willing to show me the invoice but, were very unwilling
> take any offers lower than $1500 under invoice. I have done my homework
> and do know the invoice price. I basically want all the options XLT, pd,
> pw, cruise, a/c etc. So, if you don't mind me asking? What price over
> invoice did people with the same truck get theirs at? I want to know if
> they will really budge on the price.
> Thanks alot,
> Chris


Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 23:16:28 -0400
From: Mitch Biarsky
Subject: PowerStroke vs 460 vs Triton V10

Hi all,

I've been following this thread for the past couple of weeks, and it's
quite apparrent
that the Powerstroke outperforms the 460 (mpg, top end speed, torque,
etc). I'm
waiting for the '99 F350 to become available and have read on numerous
sites the the Triton V10 will be an available engine choice. The V10 is
available in Fords fullsize vans. Does anyone have any performance
figures for
this engine, and how it compares to the Powerstroke???

Thanks, Mitch
'86 F250 4x4


Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 22:51:28 -0500
From: Ezekial
Subject: Re: Ford V-8

I know Ford made a 360 and the other variety of engines but I was
refering to the standard today. Like through the sixties there were
more sizes of engines than you can name.


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Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 21:31:28
From: Ken Miller
Subject: Re: PowerStroke vs 460 vs Triton V10

There is a write up in September Issue of Trailer Life, pp 44, on the V10
in a van, pulling a 28 foot travel trailer. It says in that article, 265
hp and 410 ft-lbs of torque. I was not impressed, 10.4 mpg towing, 14.0
mpg solo.



Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 01:33:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Upgrades to '92 F-150 302

No problems, just some news!

Several months ago, I mentioned plans to upgrade my '92 F-150 302 with Ford
Motorsport components.

The mods were to begin with the Mass Air conversion kit. However, during the
road-test, it was discovered that the computer in the Mass Air kit would not
communicate with the E4OD, so they put the original computer and wiring
harness back on. BTW, in so doing, they also fixed a problem with the #6
injector wiring. It was never wired correctly from the factory!

Current condition of the project: [all eight cylinders ], GT-40 alumninum
heads, 1.6 ratio roller rockers, GT-40 intake manifolds, 65mm throttle body,
19 lb/hr fuel injectors, Borla stainless headers, Edlebrock RPM series
cat-back exhaust, stock cam, stock catylitcs, stock bottom-end, stock
computer. For responsibilities sake; I've added cross drilled front rotors
and "extreme performance" pads. I almost had the anti-sway bars on, but they
sent the wrong parts. :-(

Stock engine is rated 185HP 3800rpm, 270lbs/ft 2400rpm.

Results: I'm under the impression that the little engine is currently
putting out between 300-320HP. Too soon to tell on the fuel consumption, but
so far it looks consistant with previous 14-17mpg. (I'll have to get it on
the highway -- and stop peeling out, for the good numbers! BTW, all time
best as stock was 21mpg with 235/75/15 tires and 3.55 gears. I've had 31"
tires for several years--getting the afore mentioned 14-17mpg.) The
performance "envelope" is roughly equivalent to my wife's [stock] '93
Thunderbird 302.

Future: I still want the Mass Air conversion to best optimize all of these
new components. We're looking into the 5.8L H.O. (Lightning) kit w/E4OD
control. Will have to change the cam to change the timing so it matches the
H.O. engine. Expecting 340-360HP. This should put the performance envelope
close to a stock '91 Mustang GT I once owned! Not too bad for a 3-ton 4x4!

Just having fun with a paid-off Ford!
- -David


Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 02:07:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: a warning



Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 01:44:47 -0700
From: "Jim Lohse"
Subject: 1996 350 Dually

I have a 1996 Ford Dually, 2wd, 460, Trailer and Tow package. Recently my
towing limits just change to haulling a 11'3" Lance Camper 3,500lbs. I
have on order Firestone air springs and compressor for the rear. I have
been told that if this is now my upper limit for towing that I can remove
one rear leaf spring to soften the ride. If this is true, which leaf.


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