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80-96-list Digest Wed, 17 May 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 090

In This Issue:
Fuel tanks...
After New Springs Installed
Re: poor running
Seat Interchangeability
SC is ?
Re: SC is ?
Re: Corporate Rear-End


Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 22:26:13 -0500
From: Steve Deis>
Subject: Fuel tanks...

Steve, the truck is 2wd. I don't believe it's absolutely necessary to
drop the
driveshaft, at least the shop manual doesn't mention it. OTOH, the shop
manual doesn't say a heck of a lot about the rear tank, either.
Dropping the driveshaft does allow you better access to the tank, and I
have a loose aft u-joint anyway, so what the hey. An access hatch on
the bed, like Datsun used in the early 70's, is what ford should have

I'd thought of pulling the bed, but I'm by myself out in the boondocks.
When pressed, I've pulled a cab-over camper with 2 horses and block &
tackle, but that's a separate story with its own pitfalls.

The inlet side of the rear tank is a genuine female dog. You wish you
had the hands of a 4-year-old and the dexterity of a surgeon. You can
lower the tank enough to remove the hose when you pull the tank, but the
reinstallation is not that simple, by any means. It halps to have a
floor jack with a wide lifting pad, and a good assortment of 1/4" drive
sockets...5/16" universal socket was what saved my tail. A tube of
silicone grease is neat to have when reinstalling the hoses.

What's nice is that the fuel gage actually shows E when empty and F when
full, and no more bouncing all over the place.

Neighborhood kids learned nothing...I've reformed since my language in
response to a virus warning on this list got me 86'd. Ken reinstated
me, but I'm pretty sure I'm still on probation or parole.

steve in tx

> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 20:25:01 -0400
> From: S Spaulding>
> Subject: Re: Fuel pump/sender...
> Steve,
> Is it two wheel drive, or four wheel drive? I did not need to drop the
> driveshaft on my four wheel drive.
> The inlet side of the rear tank was fun, huh? All the neighborhood
> children learned some new words...
> Steve


Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 22:29:15 -0500
From: Steve Deis>
Subject: Manuals...

Following is a reply I received from Helm Inc. Message came from Contact him if you need more info. Either of
these guys can get you an original or repro manual, though probably not
immediately, still quicker than waiting on Helm to start a new print
run. When I called 6 weeks ago, Bishko had a repro for 110 $. I was on
Helm's wait list for 6 months for an '88 manual set. I since found a
good deal from a fellow lister for an original set. Thanks again, Tom.


steve in tx

> at this time that item is still out of stock. you may want to try the following Companies to see if they may have one.

> From: Mc Gregor JAMES>
> Subject: Re: Owners manual
> Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 08:20:21 +0200
> >
> Were you after a manual, or just a copy of a manual>
> John either would do , are you able to assist?
> The local supplier for US Ford parts in South Africa has been out of stock
> for some months now.
> James


Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 22:42:04 -0500
From: Ezekial>
Subject: After New Springs Installed

I was talking the other day about my awesom front springs. I forgot to
mention the point of my tires pointing out at the top. I finally got
around to it tonight. I took the stock camber bushing and turned it 180
degrees and put it back in. It is almost the exact some amount that was
out, but now is leaning in that much. My question is.. How do I figure
out what size bushing to get to put it back in check?


Ezekial (Derrick)
93 F-150 4x4, 351, SC, SB
66 Fastback Stang, 289HP, 4sp, 9inch
96 Conv. Stang, 3.8, lil add ons


Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 21:01:26 -0700
From: Bob Kennedy>
Subject: Re: poor running

The TPS acts as a potentiometer, it starts out with a low voltage
reading (stock .6 volts) and maxes out at 4.5 volts. It mounts to the
bottom of the throttle body. Word has it that some models have slotted
mounts to allow for a bit of tweaking before completely tightening. The
way the mounting holes on the TPS are setup, it would only take a couple
of snips to adapt it to do this anyway.

Checking is is finding the output wire, piercing it with a needle or
such and attach a digital VOM to it. The other end would be to the
ground for the circuit, I think it's the black wire. Then turn on the
switch and operate the throttle and watch the voltage climb very
smoothly from the baseline (.6 to .98 volts) up to 4.5 volts. Any flats
spots or sudden jumps denotes a bad TPS.

Bob wrote:

> how would u go about cheking the tps and changing the voltage to it?
> DK
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 08:15:02 -0700
From: Chuck Sanborn>
Subject: Seat Interchangeability

Subject truck: 86 F150 w/bench seat
Wife is 5'4"
Her truck
I have built "training blocks" for the clutch and she still has
trouble reaching the damn thing. I just installed a floor
shifter so the seat cannot go any further forward and still
us 1st and 3rd (three speed)
Am looking to install either bucket seats or a 64/40 seat.
My question is (finally), what year seats will ingterchange
to the 86? Probably kind of a no brainer question as I think
I can probably use any seat I want but if any of you have done
this I'm lookin for suggestions as junkyard trucks are in short
supply out here in So. Cal.


From: "Paul Skofield">
Subject: SC is ?
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 10:07:36 -0700

OK.....been on this list for 2 years and I never did figure this out. When
somebody is giving a description of their truck; does SC mean Standard Cab
or Super Cab?

96 F-250 Super Cab LWB 4x4 w/ 5.8L


Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 15:04:24 EDT
Subject: Re: SC is ?

In a message dated 5/18/00 1:08:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, writes:

<< SC mean Standard Cab
or Super Cab?
Super Cab
Wayne Foy
94 Flareside SC
1999 Fun Ford Weekend
Racing series
#2 Top Truck
Atlanta GA


Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 17:32:26 -0700
From: Marv & Marge>
Subject: Re: Corporate Rear-End

Thanks to Ox, who wrote:
> They come off like 1/2 tons or any rear drum car.

And to Greg Carter who added:
> The 10.25 full float rear I used was out of an '89 and I don't think it
> required you to remove the hub to get at the brakes.

And then said:
> I converted it to disks at the same time so never had to worry about drums.

Wanna' tell me more? Costs? Rear ABS deletion?
Anyway, after buying this '89, and not being able to get the factory manual
(Helm is backordered), I suppose I look kinda dumb thinking I had a BIG
Dana-kinda thing on my hands. What a breeze to check the rear linings on a
Ford Corporate 10.25 incher!

Thanks to you guys, I didn't set aside all of next Saturday morning to do it.
Ten minute job.

Ain't THAT what the group's all about?


Also, anybody know what the Inferred Milage Sensor (IMS) does?
I know it sends a logic signal to the EMS, but what does it represent?
For instance: "Hey! You got a hunnert thou on this motor, and it's gettin'
tired. Back off on the timing a couple of degrees. Lengthen the injector
pulse widths a couple of percent." Something like that? ANYBODY?



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