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80-96-list Digest Fri, 24 Mar 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 044

In This Issue:
Update on my F-350 woes.
Re: Speedometer
Re: Urgent Please - Lower ball joint info
Re: Speedometer
Hood insulator?
88 F-250
More of my F-350 woes
Re: Lift Kits
Later and Later digest???
Re: Radar Detectors


From: "Dave Harmier">
Subject: Update on my F-350 woes.
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:11:13 -0600

E4OD: Today it did it for a while (slip/shudder?) then later never again on
that run cycle. Tonight did it some... mostly seems to occur when gassin'
it from a steady cruise.... sometimes a VERY noticable shudder!!! I
remember there was a way to lock out the TC on an E4OD... someone enlighten

Thumpin' Floorboard: Today bought an I-Beam pivot bushing, and after MUCH
hassle, got it installed. The old one had crumbly rubber, and a shiney
place between the inner steel tube and the outer tube. Thought SURE I had
the Thump Knocked!!! It's still there :-(
The LIGHTEST pressure on the brake pedal stops it. Jacking that side up and
looking at the caliper tomorrow. Any ideas beyond caliper?

Still REALLY like the beast!!!

Dave H.
90 F-350 Crew 7.3
91 F-150 SC 5.8 Dads
92 F-150 SC 5.0 Sisters


Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 21:13:04 -0800
From: chuck sanborn>
Subject: Re: Speedometer

Actually I think that Don Or Bub is correct. My wifes 83 LTD will shift
right at those
dots given a normal acceleration.

At 10:34 PM 3/23/00 -0600, you wrote:
>I think they are speed calibration points: the speedo input is turned a
>specified RPM and the needle must fall between those dots to pass. I do
>not recall seeing this discussed in the shop manual. Perhaps it is too
>At 23-03-00 20:38, Don or Bub wrote:
>>i think that they are for your shift points.


From: "Steve Schmeckpeper">
Subject: Re: Urgent Please - Lower ball joint info
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 06:20:58 -0600

----- Original Message -----
From: Martin Horne optonline.Net>

> I need a front left hand lower ball joint on my '86 Bronco 4WD. Sears
> quoted me $50.00 a side labor. Should I let them do it, or tackle it
> I have replaced engines etc. so the difficulty doesn't bother me. I just
> get the impression that for $50.00 it isn't worth the hassle of
> the spindle assembly and I might be better off having a beer while
> else does it.

Hi Martin...............Go for the beer 8^>>



From: "Mahaffey, Chris M">
Subject: Re: Speedometer
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:32:26 -0500

The calibration points makes more sense to me than the shift points. The 3
pairs of dots are around 0, 25, and 65 mph. Those values don't line up at
all with the shift points for my truck with the 300 and a 4 spd. I
usually shift from 2nd to 3rd around 15-20mph and 3rd to 4th around
30-35mph. I only use 1st when towing or starting on a very steep hill.

Thanks for all the replies.

>I think they are speed calibration points: the speedo input is turned a
>specified RPM and the needle must fall between those dots to pass. I do not

>recall seeing this discussed in the shop manual. Perhaps it is too


Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 10:03:40 -0600
From: Steve Randa>
Subject: Hood insulator?

Did any of the years have hood insulators. I would like a little noise
reduction and heat retention. The underside of my '84 looks like it
might of had one. It seems there are holes where retainers might have went.

Steve Randa


Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:40:42 -0800
From: Marv Miller>
Subject: 88 F-250

Hi gang. Been lurking his list about two weeks, now. Been over at 61-79 almost since the
beginning, and 48-60 for about a year and a half.

But I'm gonna' get an '88 F-250 in about a month. 302 EFI and automatic (not sure
- AOD?). 2WD. Anything I need to know special about this one? I bookmarked the
site with the codes, and may order his book after I get the truck. Are the Helm's
still available for this year? Any congenital defects? The only thing I'll have to fix
is the A/C, which has been inop for about three years.

I'm especially concerned about tranny life. External filter (and cooler if it
doesn't already have one) are first on the list. Anybody know of any factory
(or aftermarket) reliability mods for this trans?

It has a utility bed, and I'll probably put most of the contents of my already
stuffed garage into it, so it'll be weighted down pretty well. I've outgrown
my lead foot in my old age, and fuel economy is getting to be a greater concern
as time goes on, so the tranny shouldn't see any abuse, but sometimes things go
wrong that could have been prevented with a little fore-knowledge.

Got any?




From: "Dave Harmier">
Subject: More of my F-350 woes
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 19:36:15 -0600

E4OD: Found the front u-joint rattling around in the yoke, and the rear
pinion yoke nut was loose. Got a new yoke, joint, and tightened the pinion
nut.... no help. It does this Shudder bit in third locked up, and a wee
bit after the 1-2 shift. Maybe a bit in OD too, but test drives don't allow
that speed range around here.
At the third locked up thing cruising maybe 45 mph, foot down, rpms go up
just about 400 or so and its shuddering or slipping? It might even be
differential related???? (Dana 80???)

Thumpin floor. Whew! Checked the strut bushing looks ok. Found the bolt
that holds strut rod to I beam, bottom of spring, and sway bar mount loose.
Thought SURE that would do it... nope. It just rattles against the frame or
body in no apparent rythm, until just touching the brake pedal. I'm at the
end of my rope!!!!


Dave H.
I STILL love the beast, but she's trying my patience!!!!


From: (Scott Mummery)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 20:22:56 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: Lift Kits

For 4x4 and 4x2 , Pro Comp and Rancho have the most complete kits. You
are on the right track by getting rear leaf springs. Some folks use the
blocks for the lift in the ear. If you are going to use your truck for
more that just the highway blocks are not the answer. Another way is
to use add a spring kits. Not completely bad but they do make for a
harsh ride.
As for cheaper kits the price might be low at first but when you add a
pitman arm, and the brackets to lower the transfer case multi shock
mounts and other things it all adds up. Not to mention what it does for
your rigs ride. The pro comp and Rancho kits actually improve suspension
geometry and articulation. Other words it improves your ride. On and
Good Luck. :)
Scott M
95 F150 SC 4X4 5.8L
86 Mustang 383ci


From: "Dave Harmier">
Subject: Later and Later digest???
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:28:37 -0600

Anyone else notice? I'm in CST and have been getting it at 10:30 and later,
really getting it next AM.


Dave H.
Still love the beast!!!!


Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 05:34:08 EST
Subject: Re: Radar Detectors

My father owns the Valentine and I use it on occasion. It is very much worth
the going price and we (both) have been very pleased with it!


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