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80-96-list Digest Thu, 06 Jul 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 130

In This Issue:
New member
Re: 302 problems
TPS measurements
1983 6.9 L Diesel water pump
Re: gas mileage


From: "Jerry Godsey">
Subject: New member
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 22:44:37 -0700

Hello all, I am a new subscriber to this Ford trucks list. I have a 88
F-150 XLT short bed which I am going to be going through. It's a great old
truck, got 130,000 miles on it and still runs like a top. Needs paint and
some minor cosmetics, but it starts every morning and the a/c blows cold!
I live in Imperial Valley, CA(90 minutes east of San Diego and 60 minutes
west of Yuma, AZ). It gets 110 or so here in the summer, so the a/c is
I also own a 65 Econoline pickup which is currently for sale. You can see
pics of it on the FTE site. I look forward to teh info and ideas presented
Jerry Godsey
65 Ford Econoline
88 F-150
95 Aerostar
89 Escort GT
Imperial, CA


Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 21:53:02 -0400
From: Wesley Murphy>
Subject: Re: 302 problems

For us with the 4.0 engine, this is a common problem. I myself had the same
problem. It would ping severely (rattle a lot) under load and especially on
start up. I was also loosing about a quart every 1000 miles. I took it
into the shop to have new gaskets on the upper end installed. I had a
leaking intake manifold and a leaking head gasket that after fixing took
care of the oil/coolant consumption. While in there, my mechanic replaced
all the pushrods; he said they were wore severely and replacing those took
care of the rattle.

I always assumed it was pinging (I could hear it somewhat) but that the
rattle was just covering it up.

It wouldn't hurt to do a check of all your gaskets. I would also pull the
plugs to look for contamination.

Good luck!
Wesley Murphy
91 EB Explorer 4x4

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kyle L Pacatte">
To: "'80-96-listford-truckscom'" <>
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 12:56 AM
Subject: [80-96-list] 302 problems

> I have a 94' f150 XLT, 5spd, 302 with 63000 miles. I'm the second owner.
> I have a problem with the truck spark knocking (pinging) during
> acceleration, and during constant speed. I added a super chip, which made
> the pinging worse, even with 93 octane gas. Also the truck uses one
> quart/800 miles. Not a lot of sign of oil burning in the exhaust. It
> seems like the truck is loading up. I've replaced and modified the
> following: MAP sensor, O2 sensor, Cap & Rotor, Plugs and wires, K&N air
> filter, Gibson super truck split rear exhaust, Superchip. I've been
> hearing a lot about how speed density engines have problems accepting
> modifications. Any help would be appreciated, I would really like to get
> rid of the pinging.
> Thank you,
> Kyle


Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:49:18 -0500
Subject: TPS measurements

How do you measure your TPS voltage to see if it is working? I just
tried and got a constant 12.4 volts between it and ground on both leads.
I tried resistance between the two leads and got a constant resistance no
matter how I moved the throttle. I thought I knew how to do this, but I
guess not. Any help would be appreciated.

- Mark Reimers KB9ODG
'66 Bronco 170 I-6, 3-speed, 3.5" suspension lift, 3" body lift, 35"
tires ...
with an '88 5.0L and AOD waiting to go in!
'87 F-150 XLT 4x2 300 I-6, 4-speed, straight pipe ...

"Don't let go of that youthfull soul. Despite body and mind your youth
will never die." - Creed


Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 19:10:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Arthur Dembinski>
Subject: 1983 6.9 L Diesel water pump

I noticed a noise from under the hood & found
abrasions on the tips of the fan blade where they were
hitting the front of the A/C compressor now and then.
The shaft of the fan clutch/pulley combination wobbles
a bit when I move it with my hands, looks normal when
idling, otherwise the motor runs fine, cools properly,
no leaks.

One mechanic told me the water pump would have to be
replaced, $120 for parts, $300 for labor. I think I
could do that myself, but am worried about breaking
the water pump bolts due to age & corrosion.

I have the Helm/FMC shop manual for this engine. It
mentions a special tool T83T-6312-A&B to remove the
fan & clutch assembly.
My local dealer was no help in giving any info about
this tool. I was thinking of removing the radiator
first and then the whole fan/clutch and water pump as
a unit. Any comments would be appreciated.

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From: "Jason Derra">
Subject: Re: gas mileage
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:25:37 -0700

----- Original Message -----
From: Jason Derra
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 10:17 PM
Subject: gas mileage

Subject vehicle: 93ish F150 4x4, Ext cab shortbed, 302, 5 speed, 3.55 gears. What kind of mileage could be expected with this setup?
'69 Bronco 5.0 EFI
'96 F250 Ext Cab 4WD Powerstroke E4OD


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