80-96-list-digest Tuesday, September 1 1998 Volume 02 : Number 303

Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980-1996 Trucks and Vans
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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - f150 power windows - thanks!
RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: Water Sepage into Cab
FTE 80-96 - Ext Cab window kit?
FTE 80-96 - Axle Code
FTE 80-96 - Re: Springfield Get-Together
FTE 80-96 - that whine!!
FTE 80-96 - Fw: Poping noise
FTE 80-96 - 83 F-100 advice



Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:34:38 -0500
From: "Vic"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - f150 power windows - thanks!

Finally got time to do the windows on the truck.

Got the gears from Autozone, $30 ea. Took 1 hour for the first door, 45 min
for the second. Went easy as pie except for all the grease (I'm very messy).

Took off the upper piece of the door panel, drilled out the two divets, used
a nut-driver for those two and an open end wrench for the third. My for arms
are a little cut up from digging down in the door for dropped bolts, but it
wasn't nearly as bad as I expected.

Thanks for those who helped out.

-Vic Erwin

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 09:10:57 -0700
From: Mike Marcum
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: Water Sepage into Cab

John (and others with wet floorboards),

I live in the Pacific Northwest and have an 86 F-250 extended cab, which
leaks during hard rain (especially when the truck is parked with nose
pointing downhill). It has an electric sunroof, so I started checking
there, but I also suspected the front windshield. I took it to a glass
shop, to get a price quote for resealing the windshield, and the first thing
they said was "did you check the rain gutters?". Aparantly, they get a lot
of Fords with open seams in the front corners of the rain gutters. I
looked, and sure enough, each side had a .5"-to-1" crack in the front corner
of the rain gutter. When the nose of the truck is pointed downhill, all of
the water from the cab runs over these cracks and leaks inside. To seal the
crack, the window man suggested butyl rubber, warmed in a 200 degree oven.
It will then flow into the tiny spaces and seal up real well. He warned
against the use of silicon, because it's acidic components will accellerate
any rusting that is taking place around the opening.

Good luck with tracking down your water leak.

- - Mike

> I would also like to know where to look for this water leak. I have a
> 1983 F100 with 50,000 miles that is solid as a rock body wise or at
> least I thought so. I noticed that there was water pudling in the area
> around the drivers side kick panel after a heavy rain or when I washed
> the truck. I found that the drains for the air vents in the kick panels
> were plugged with leaves and the vents were filling up and over flowing
> into the cab. I thought this would solve the problem but still found
> water leaking in.
> I then removed the rear window because water was leaking down the back
> wall of the cab. I resealed the window and reinstalled it. I also
> removed the rubber floor mat to dry out the insulation and found that
> there were small patches of rust on the floor from the wet insulation.
> It was wet all the way up the fire wall. More than I would expect from a
> leaky rear window! I wire brushed the rust and found about 6 quarter
> size holes through the floor. So much for my rust free truck. I welded
> patches over the holes and know must look for the leak.
> My next step will probably be to remove and reseal the windshield. The
> truck also has factory installed clearance lights and they maybe leaking
> and letting water run down the windshield pillar to the floor. Has
> anyone else had the problem and found a solution?
> John Bowman
> 1983 F100 - Big Red
> jbowmanmtt.ca
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 13:03:13 -0700
From: "Kelly A. Grace-Meyer"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Ext Cab window kit?

Does anyone know of a kit to make the rear side windows of a 96 F-150 ext cab open?

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:17:03 -0500
From: David Anderson
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Axle Code

The axle code on the door post of my '90 F150 4.9L E4OD is "18". What
ratio is this?
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:36:57 -0500
From: Daniel Maxwell
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Springfield Get-Together

No, Springfield is around Dayton, Springfield Township is around Akron. If
it was in Springfield Twp, I could go (on call)

>Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 14:08:32 -0700
>From: Randy
>Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Springfield Get-Together
>I might be interested in coming to the Springfield show. Isn't that
>located somewhere near Akron? I seem to remember CRA races being held
>there. Saturday would probably be the best day for me, but morning or
>early afternoon wouldn't be good since I usually work Sat mornings and
>I'm thinking about 1.5 hrs to drive there. Are you volunteering to
>head up the 'casual' FTE meeting? Let me know more, off-list if you
>feel it'd be better.
>Randy (Brew)
>The Neighbors wrote:
>> Ken Payne's recent post concerning the Atlanta show got me to
>> thinking: I will be going to a show/swap meet called "Springfield in the
>> Fall" in Springfield, Ohio, the same weekend, September 11-13. While I
>> have not made it to the Fall meet before, if it is like the Spring meet,
>> it is a general show, with an accent on swap meet, rather than a
>> strictly truck show. It would be a great meeting place for some of us in
>> the northern reaches who can't make Atlanta this year.
>> If any of you are interested, let me know, and we'll get together
>> Saturday the 12th. If we can't all get together at the same time, look
>> for a "well fed" guy with light brown hair, a reddish beard and a
>> "Grover" t-shirt in the vicinity of a Tempo and a Kelty tent, or
>> somewhere in the swap area looking longingly at something he can't
>> afford!
>> --
>> Don Neighbors
>> '54 F250 Named Grover
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 17:45:47 EDT
From: DHall8577aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - that whine!!

In a message dated 98-08-29 06:38:52 EDT, you write:

one hour into driving, I will start getting this lil whine that continue=
s for the next couple of hours >>
I used to live there too, well close anyway, Pollock Pines on the Pony Express
Trail, you probably seen it on your way to Tahoe. I used to work at Suburban
Ford 1000 in Sacramento, Ca. Now I freeze to death in Ohio :-( By the way
I have that same whine tooooooo!!! :-)

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 22:14:48 -0100
From: "John Thornton"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Fw: Poping noise

- -----Original Message-----
From: John Thornton
To: 80-96-listford-trucks
Date: Friday, August 28, 1998 11:25 PM
Subject: RE: Poping noise

>To all those with poping noise in cab
> I had a poping noise in, under, somewhere around
>right side of cab. At first thought it might be a tie rod or something in
>tranny. I could not find it and it was driving me crazy. Thought for sure
>it had to be supension. I took a bar bell rod, turned the wheels hard
>placed the rod through I beam and started putting pressure out on tire.
>Could make noise but could not figure out where. I placed my hand on trans
>crossmember while pushing out with my foot and could feel the cross member
>pop. My solution to the problem was to remove the bolts and place a hard
>rubber between the crossmember and the frame . Over one year since I did
>this little trick and I ain 't had no more poping. (excuse double negatives
>but that's the truth) I don't know if yours is the same noise, but hope
>this could be of help.
> Pat
> 93 F150 SCab XLT 5.0 AOD
> Still goin'

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 23:14:47 -0400
From: "Mike and Renee Skeans"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 83 F-100 advice

I have a 1983 F-100 Flareside with a 302/AOD. It is almost broke in with
only 177k miles. It is not using or loosing any oil and runs good. I have a
couple of questions. This is my daily driver and I would like to freshen up
the performance a little. Nothing to serious, just to improve driveability,
performance and maybe mileage. Just make it more efficient, if you know what
I mean, breathe better and run better.

1. I need a new air cleaner housing, the original is cracking up. Any
suggestions? K & N?

2. New exhaust system from the "Y" back. I think I would like to keep the
single pipe and the cat. is already gone. How about a nice sounding muffler,
deep but not too loud. What are you guys using...Flowmaster?

3. Anybody have any experience with the performance/improvements of using
the Jacobs electronics ignition (ultimate team?)or any similar system. Did
it work as advertised for you? I definitely need new wires, cap, rotor and

4. My little Motorcraft 2bbl (Autolite 2150?) is needing a tune up. I like
it, would you rebuild it or buy a new one?
or replace it with something else entirely.

I would greatly appreciate your comments, experience or suggestion for this
application. That is all for now fellas, isn't it enough. Thank you for your

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