Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 03:50:34 -0700 (MST)
From: (fordtrucks61-79-digest)
Subject: fordtrucks61-79-digest V2 #55

fordtrucks61-79-digest Friday, January 30 1998 Volume 02 : Number 055

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In this issue:

Re: Upgrades, where is the line drawn [Kurt Albershardt ]
Re: Upgrades, where is the line drawn [Kurt Albershardt ]
Re: 66 F100 interior parts ["Michael Connor" ]
Re: floor pan. ["Dennis K. Austin" ]
Re: Varsol ["Deacon" ]
Re: 66 F100 interior parts [Floyd Terrell ]
Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V2 #50 ["Dennis K. Austin"



Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 20:41:21 -0800
From: Kurt Albershardt
Subject: Re: Upgrades, where is the line drawn

At 10:57 PM 1/29/98 EST, wrote:
>Another interesting thing I read is, That good 'ol Pete Wilson is going to
>sign (hopefully) a law that states, if any vehicle passes the emissions test,
>it will pass. It doesn't need to pass the visual inspection.

'Scuse me while I pick myself up off the floor here... This sounds
entirely too logical for the government we've come to know & love. For 20
years that I personally can remember, I've been hoppin' mad about the
bull$%!t laws requiring equipment compliance irrespective of tailpipe
emissions. I just never understood why the referees could give an
exemption for a vehicle with all the parts and black crud pouring out the
tailpipe yet fail a vehicle missing some parts that was 25% under the spec
for tailpipe emissions.

Do you have any ionfo on the SB number or whatever? I'd love to write a
letter in support of this baby...


Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 21:10:27 -0800
From: Kurt Albershardt
Subject: Re: Upgrades, where is the line drawn

At 08:40 PM 1/29/98 -0800, Deacon wrote:
>Say what? Where? Scott, have I ever told you how much I appreciate you AOL
>Here is the California Smog Check site
>California legislative information
>California DMV

I just spent 25 minutes grinding through this legislative hooey, and all
these bills look the same. Anybody know which one is the one that
eliminates the BS?


Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:11:10 -0700
From: "Michael Connor"
Subject: Re: 66 F100 interior parts

I was about to ask the same thing RE: 73-79 door panels
and dash pads. Any aftermarket sources?

Phoenix, AZ.

>Does anybody know a good source for interior parts?
>I'm looking for a dash pad, door panels, a rubber or vinyl mat for the
>and arm rests for the doors.
>Thanks in advance
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 01:33:11 -0600
From: "Dennis K. Austin"
Subject: Re: floor pan.

Hi Guys!
I managed the disc brake conversion on my '65 F-100 using '74 parts and
Ken's directions. Ken has the details and is adding a link with notes
for the '65 conversion with part numbers.

I have the 435 top loader, but cannot find the transmission floor plate
to go over it. I see a number of you are going to C4-C6 transmissions.
Would one of you have the plate I need with the correct hole in it? I
don't want to build one.

Also, one of the things I see left out of the discussion on the
transmissions is the shifting and clutching issue in extremely hilly
areas. I use to live in Brown County, Indiana (seems like a different
life time) which is got more road surface going up and down than it does
going level. I ran into more people who traded out standard
transmissions for automatics just because they got so tired of clutching
and shifting on those steep hills (it didn't matter... car or truck).
So there is a comfort level to consider when choosing what tranny to

However, now I live in the flatlands of Louisiana. Driving a standard
is no big deal and I am looking forward to getting this project truck

- -=DENNIS=-


Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:29:52 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: Varsol

>Do tell Deacon!!!

You'll get scared! But you asked. :)

When I was just a young lad of 7, my Dad was trying to start and old car
using a small can of gas. A Teenager from across the street was in the car
turning it over and my Dad was pouring a little gas in the carburetor. The
car backfired igniting the small can of gas in his hand and he threw the
flaming can of gas behind him.
I witnessed the whole thing. Where else would a 7 year old be when his
father is working on a car but right behind him. Yes sir, that can of
flaming gas caught me on the side, in a flash I was engulfed in flame.
After hearing "Stop Drop and Roll" about a million times I ducked my
head and ran as fast as I could thinking I could out run the flames. Well
that didn't work all that well. As a matter of fact it didn't work at all!
The Teenager from across the street that was helping my Dad leaped from the
car and caught me next door. In one move he ripped off my shirt and knocked
me to the ground putting out the flames and did nothing short of saving my
I learned many lessons that day but the one most important is fire is
easily extinguished when it first starts. Never panic. I use gas to clean
parts. I don't use gas to start fires because it does that to well.
The dangerous thing about using gas are the fumes. They are heavy and
move across a floor and if an open flame is present in an enclosed area it
will get to it.Slowly but it will get to it. If you use gas to clean parts,
recognize it is
dangerous have only what you need out in the open, don't think it won't
happen to you, throwing caution to the wind, just clean parts outside to be
safe. Randy and Dana aren't just safety fanatics. Their speaking the truth.
was on fire for less than a minute and had a 3rd degree burn
that covered my side. I didn't feel a thing until I was in the house. The
shock wore off then I was in pain like I never felt before and haven't
since. Instead of becoming afraid of fire I found out how controllable fire
is and how easily it can get away from you. Never light a pile of
tumbleweeds on fire no matter how safe you think you are. Hey that's another
story! :)
BTW, I was young and healed completely.

Deacon Blues
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 01:39:49 -0800
From: Floyd Terrell
Subject: Re: 66 F100 interior parts wrote:

> Does anybody know a good source for interior parts?
> I'm looking for a dash pad, door panels, a rubber or vinyl mat for the floor,
> and arm rests for the doors.
> Thanks in advance
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Obsolete Ford has them, I think they are in Dallas, TX


Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 00:24:42 -0600
From: "Dennis K. Austin"
Subject: Re: fordtrucks61-79-digest V2 #50

Its too bad that somebody got out of hand and flamed you. I apologize
for my Ford buddies.

There is a magazine that is right up your alley and has covered the
subject of suicide doors and other custom projects. Check out "Custom
Classic Trucks" a rag that you will find on most any stand.
Subscription is cheap. They have it all from original restored jobs
through mild customs to radical customs. But, its all trucks!

If you decide on doing some other things to the drive line get a Winter
98 copy of "All About Chassis, Street & Custom Rodding Illustrated" It
includes the retro of a Lincoln disc brake rear end to any frame.

As to those speakers in the engine compartment. If you can get it to
work you might want to let us know and be sure to heat shield them.
J.C. Whitney sells subwoofer setups designed for trucks. So, check in
to it. I saw one custom setup in a Ford Truck where this guy built a
huge speaker aray into the bed cover of his truck. When he got to the
beach he popped it up and let the sound waves loose.

Keep reading though... you will learn some things. Besides, I think I
have seen a trend lately in the custom/hotrod shows which is a custom 6
cyl engine instead of the v8. Loads of chrome, multiple carbs, but the
insurance is less, they aren't racing them, and the gas mileage is
better, mostly just for cruising on Sundays to the local car show.

- -=DENNIS=-
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:54:57 -0500
> From: Perry Farrell
> Subject: Re: A couple of questions about my truck
> > I'd like to ask a few more stupid questions. About suicide doors: is
> that just where the doors open backwards (the hinge is on the side
> facing the bed, instead of the engine side)? If so, would it be possible
> to convert my doors like that (I'm sure everybody knows it's a '77 F100
> Custom)? I think suicide doors (or at least my impressions of what they
> are exactly) would be a nice little novelty-type thing to do to my
> truck, although it might just be stupid, in which case I restore them to
> their original form. Also, shaving the door handles: what exactly does
> this... do? Like, what does that mean? And what does it entail? I really
> thank everyone who answered my questions truthfully, and I hope I get
> some more straight answers. And Kevin, the next time you think about
> flaming someone, stop and think what that'd make you: a FLAMER, flamer!


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