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Subject: fordtrucks61-79-digest V2 #118

fordtrucks61-79-digest Sunday, March 1 1998 Volume 02 : Number 118

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In this issue:

Re: 302 Swap update [Brian ]
Re: Our list in a nut shell! ["Michael Redden" ]
Re: 460 cooling problems [Brian ]
Re: Intro [Ken Payne ]
Re: Thunderbird Special? [Ken Payne ]
Re: 460 cooling problems []
Re: Our list in a nut shell! [Ken Payne ]
Mild vs. Wild [Dan Koster ]
302 swap [ (George Schott)]
Re: Subject: Our list in a nut shell! ["Dale and Donna Carmine"
6=8 ["Harry Jennings" ]



Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 19:22:24 -0500
From: Brian
Subject: Re: 302 Swap update

> I am
> installing an Edelbrock 600 CFM carb. and the throttle hooks up on the
> drivers side where on the 240 it hooked up on the passenger side what
> are some good ways and materials to make the linkage out of?

I recently put a 750 cfm Edelbrock on my 460 in my '64 and had to
build linkage. I went to the junkyard and scavanged some parts for
about $3.00 and made a piece that worked great.



Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 20:25:50 -0500
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: Re: Our list in a nut shell!

How 'bout:

1 who wouldn't admit to packing a bearing with Vicks Vapo Rub instead of



Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 19:28:50 -0500
From: Brian
Subject: Re: 460 cooling problems

I don't know what radiator you may have...But when I put a 460 into my
'79 which had a 351M originally, I had the same problem. I put a 4 core
new modine radiator in and that solved it.


Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 21:06:27 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: Intro


Since Chris has set fire to the gas station with his introduction and claim
that '72-'96 trucks have no character...... I'll give my introduction.
I have a '66 F250 with a tired 352 and a cast iron fmx with "morning
sickness". It's fairly clean looking with '68 steel wheels and new
interior (custom cab). I have a fresh 390 built by a local machine shop
and it is collecting dust until I finish building the engine for my
Mustang. The truck is begining to look like a mid sixties version of
what a NASCAR supertruck would have looked like. Powder-coated wheels
, plain white exterior and a dual exhaust that will soon exit out of the
quarter panels just like Holman & Moody used to do it. I've been lurking
for a couple of days and I like the feel of this list and hope to contribute.

Don Rositch
'66 F250
'68 Mustang coupe


Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 21:07:38 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: Thunderbird Special?


Dan (and everyone else),
Your friend could be right about that 390 not fitting his Fairlane. If
it is a '66 or later the engine will fit but if it doesn't have the heads
with the diagonal bolt pattern (used on Fairlanes and Mustangs) you can't
bolt up the proper exhaust manifolds to fit the chassis. You can also
probably get date codes from the different castings to see when the
engine castings were made (I don't have that information available).
I'm sure the Thunderbird Special engine was offered in other cars than
the Thunderbird.

Good Luck,
Don Rositch
'66 F250
'68 Mustang coupe


Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 18:08:13 -0800
Subject: Re: 460 cooling problems

I have a stock 3 core radiator from a 70 390 in my 70 with 460 and I have never
had the slightest overheating problems. As it turns out the 70 390 "Super Cool"
option is the 74 460 "Standard Cool" radiator. They are both 3 core but the 390
is 5 inches shorter and the upper tank isn't as huge. It didn't seem to be worth
the hassle to adapt flanges and all the other things that might come along. The
390 rad has only 18% less frontage. Size isn't everything, fins per inch makes a
big difference.

Just for a test:

Next summer when it is 90 or so, I am going to put 1000 lbs of water ( if I need
to I can drain it out )in the bed and drive to Big Bear ( 6000 feet or so ) and
see how it goes.



Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 21:13:12 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: Our list in a nut shell!

Its appropriate. Actually, the topic should have been:
Our list has nut shells.

Ken :^)


Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 18:59:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Dan Koster
Subject: Mild vs. Wild

Thanks for your comments, George.

This was the best part:

> Good for confusing chevy guys.

> Another way to get 396 is a 427 block with a 360 crank. A friend had
> in his C/A-B/G '54 ford in the early 70's. He used a 361 FT crank
> the snout cut down. 10,000 rpm screamer. Had everyone scratching
> heads. I know, this has nothing to do with your question, I just
> couldn't help myself:-).

I haven't really heard much about the modifications you can make to a
390. I'm quite interested, actually.

What are some 'mild' mods versus some 'wild' mods you've seen?




Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 22:15:00 -0500
From: (George Schott)
Subject: 302 swap

Well according to your posts I should have left things the way they
were. I had the trans. bolted in and had 3 sets of motor mounts and was
getting ready to get another set but opted to use the ones that came
from a 69 with 302 and drilled new holes for the tranny mount and moved
it forward. New developments are the Hedman Hedders don't fit the one on
the driver's side is o.k. but on the passengers side the 3rd pipe back
from the front hits the crossmember that goes under the motor and the
header lays right up against the starter. Your exactly right Dana in
that so many people have done this swap that I don't understand what I
could possibly be doing wrong it's very straight forward and though I am
not an A.S.E. certified mechanic I feel that I am mechanically inclined
I worked in my dad's bodyshop for several years before becoming a welder
and now am the foreman I am fair if not better at fabrication and
welding but I wanted to try to use factory set-ups and stock parts my
mistake. Sorry about all of the venting I am just really frustrated
every juncture I come to seems to have yet another surprise for me. I
guess the opinion here is that I should go back to the stock trans.
location and make the mounts fit or find ones that do correct???

Fine 69


Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 22:30:16 -0600
From: "Dale and Donna Carmine"
Subject: Re: Subject: Our list in a nut shell!


I post this at the risk of being categorized!
Best laugh I've had in a long time from this list.



Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 23:40:16 CST
From: "Harry Jennings"
Subject: 6=8

6=8 is, indeed, the logo of Cliffords Performance. The now have a web
site at, you guessed it, .

I don't think they have a parts listing yet. However, they respond to
Email VERY fast.




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