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1963 F600 4x4

Hello, I am tinkering with this cool old ford that belonged to my late Father. I would like to get it back on the road again.

I have a few questions in regards to parts and Identifying the vin # of the truck. As far the body goes, Does anyone know what parts are interchangeable with other year/models? Also it needs a new Heavy Duty radiator and I'm coming up short on my search for one.
Pic of the door tag. Can anyone decipher what these letters and numbers mean?
Has the NAPCO 4x4 kit. I have no clew about this kit. Can anyone help?
The frame was extended. I Will probably shorten it again depending on what I want to do with the truck i.e. Pickup bed or skirted flatbed?
He put an Oldsmobile 455 in it with a turbo 400 transmission. I was able to get it running but still needs a carb adjustment. Hmmm GM in a Ford!!!??

My Dad was a big time "hot rodder" and loved to custom build. He has done a bit of customizing to this truck as well. He made it into a race car hauler that pulled a 28' enclosed trailer. It had a big refrigerator box mounted on it that was used for living space on race weekends.

I'm not quite sure what I want to do with it yet, but I'd like to make it into something even more custom! Thought about putting a skirted flatbed on it or perhaps a pickup bed would be cool!
 
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Originally Posted by Oldfordlove
Hello, I am tinkering with this cool old ford that belonged to my late Father. I would like to get it back on the road again.

I have a few questions in regards to parts and Identifying the vin # of the truck. As far the body goes, Does anyone know what parts are interchangeable with other year/models? Also it needs a new Heavy Duty radiator and I'm coming up short on my search for one.
F60 = F600 (gas).

D = 292 4V

K = Kansas City MO Assembly Plant.

400259 = 1963, assembled April 1963.

156" Wheelbase.

J = Rangoon Red.

F602 = F600 (gas) .. 19,500 lbs. GVWR

81B = Custom Cab.

J = Clark model 250V 5 Speed Direct.

66 = Timken model F106 Single Speed Rear Axle / 7.20-1 / 15,000 lbs. Axle Capacity.

19,500 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.

153 net HP @ 3,800 RPM

620430:

62 = Houston TX Ford District Sales Office, where the original selling dealer ordered the truck from.

0430 = Domestic Special Order number, truck special ordered by the original purchaser, not "bought off the lot."

There's no way today to know what was "special" because FoMoCo THREW AWAY all the records for these trucks decades ago.

But it could be that FoMoCo sent the truck to NAPCO after it left the assembly line to be converted to 4WD

1971 was the first year that FoMoCo offered the F600 with factory installed 4WD

The windshield/back glass and door weatherstrips are the same: 1961/66 F100/1100. All are reproduced, but the reproducers usually only list these parts for F100/250's.

All the door internal parts are the same: 1961/66 F100/1100. All are obsolete, but some are available NOS

Hood is the same: 1961/66 F100/750. Fenders are the same: 1961/66 F500/750.
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
F60 = F600 (gas).

D = 292 4V

K = Kansas City MO Assembly Plant.

400259 = 1963, assembled April 1963.

156" Wheelbase.

J = Rangoon Red.

F602 = F600 (gas) .. 19,500 lbs. GVWR

81B = Custom Cab.

J = Clark model 250V 5 Speed Direct.

66 = Timken model F106 Single Speed Rear Axle / 7.20-1 / 15,000 lbs. Axle Capacity.

19,500 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.

153 net HP @ 3,800 RPM

620430:

62 = Houston TX Ford District Sales Office, where the original selling dealer ordered the truck from.

0430 = Domestic Special Order number, truck special ordered by the original purchaser, not "bought off the lot."

There's no way today to know what was "special" because FoMoCo THREW AWAY all the records for these trucks decades ago.

But it could be that FoMoCo sent the truck to NAPCO after it left the assembly line to be converted to 4WD

1971 was the first year that FoMoCo offered the F600 with factory installed 4WD

The windshield/back glass and door weatherstrips are the same: 1961/66 F100/1100. All are reproduced, but the reproducers usually only list these parts for F100/250's.

All the door internal parts are the same: 1961/66 F100/1100. All are obsolete, but some are available NOS

Hood is the same: 1961/66 F100/750. Fenders are the same: 1961/66 F500/750.
Wow thank you For the wealth of info NumberDummy! I really Appreciate you taking the time to go though the vin!
Hmm very interesting about the 4wd. So when searching for parts for the front and rear axles like seals and brakes, how would i look them up?

The rear single speed axle must have been swapped out for a two speed, as there is currently two speed in it now.

So 61-66 cabs are pretty much the same? Are the radiator supports the same? I am looking for a radiator as well. Perhaps a radiator from a 61-66 wold work..
 
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Ive read about the "widow maker" wheels and it seems this truck would've had them as well. It has Firestone 22.5 x 7.50 wheels are these the widow makers?
 
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Thanks! My Dad built this truck about 25 years ago, Its been sitting for 10.
 
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Hmm very interesting about the 4wd. So when searching for parts for the front and rear axles like seals and brakes, how would i look them up?
I haven't the slightest idea. NAPCO conversion (parts aren't available from Ford), swapped rear axle from what?

The rear single speed axle must have been swapped out for a two speed, as there is currently two speed in it now.

So 61-66 cabs are pretty much the same? Are the radiator supports the same? I am looking for a radiator as well. Perhaps a radiator from a 61-66 would work..
C2TZ-16138-G .. Radiator Support / Reproduced

1961/64 F100/250 2WD / 1961/65 F100/250 4WD / 1961/66 F350/600 / 1966 F250 4WD

C1TT-8005-K .. Radiator / Obsolete

1961/64 292 2V/4V F350 with DRW & F500/600.
 
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I dont know what the rear axle came from. Is there a way of identifying it?
 
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I dont know what the rear axle came from. Is there a way of identifying it?
Pic from 1964/72 truck catalog, would also apply to 1957/63. The two speed is probably an Eaton, there are myriad different model numbers.
 
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Pic from 1964/72 truck catalog, would also apply to 1957/63. The two speed is probably an Eaton, there are myriad different model numbers.
Thanks for the schematic! I'll crawl under and see what I can find. Is there a way of identifying the front axle?
 
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Thanks for the schematic! I'll crawl under and see what I can find. Is there a way of identifying the front axle?
It's a NAPCO conversion, so there's no Ford truck parts catalog info.

FTE member truckdog62563 (posts mainly in the 1948/56 forum) is the BIG truck wheel guru, knows about Marmon-Herrington conversions, may also know about NAPCO.
 
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It's a NAPCO conversion, so there's no Ford truck parts catalog info.

FTE member truckdog62563 (posts mainly in the 1948/56 forum) is the BIG truck wheel guru, knows about Marmon-Herrington conversions, may also know about NAPCO.
thank you very much, you've been very very helpful!
 
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Ive read about the "widow maker" wheels and it seems this truck would've had them as well. It has Firestone 22.5 x 7.50 wheels are these the widow makers?
Your 22.5" wheels are the tubeless one piece style. Not widow makers. But one small thing to be aware of. I can't see well enough in your pictures to know if your Napco fits the pattern, but on 1963 and some 1964 F-600s Ford fitted hub piloted wheels having the 6 lug x 8.75" bolt pattern. All prior years used standard Budd style stud piloted wheels, and Ford returned to the stud piloted system on some 1964s and in 1965. If yours are hub piloted, no hub piloted replacement wheels have existed for many years. Take good care of yours.

Sorry that I can't offer much on your Napco. I'd suggest contacting Chuck Mantiglia at Chuck's Trucks in CT. He may have info. I've also seen Napco manuals listed occasionally on eBay. Stu

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Your 22.5" wheels are the tubeless one piece style. Not widow makers. But one small thing to be aware of. I can't see well enough in your pictures to know if your Napco fits the pattern, but on 1963 and some 1964 F-600s Ford fitted hub piloted wheels having the 6 lug x 8.75" bolt pattern. All prior years used standard Budd style stud piloted wheels, and Ford returned to the stud piloted system on some 1964s and in 1965. If yours are hub piloted, no hub piloted replacement wheels have existed for many years. Take good care of yours.

Sorry that I can't offer much on your Napco. I'd suggest contacting Chuck Mantiglia at Chuck's Trucks in CT. He may have info. I've also seen Napco manuals listed occasionally on eBay. Stu

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Stu thank you for you're helpful reply. After reading your reply, a went to check the wheels and it seems they are stud piloted. Wheew what a relief! For this build i'd like to bring the front tires out a little bit. It looks kind of funny it's so narrow. Probably have to go with a different offset on the front wheels.
 
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You won't find 22.5s with the 6 x 8.75" pattern having less offset. Anything that size and pattern will be DRW style. Flat spacers on the front hubs would gain you some added track width. Stu
 


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