3 SES Codes! Do they seem connected or serious?
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3 SES Codes! Do they seem connected or serious?
Hello. I am new to diesels so please bare with me.
I just bought a 2000 f350 7.3 6 speed with 175k miles. It has a few mods such as a 5 inch lift, 5 inch turbo back exhaust, TS Performance 6 Position Chip and a few other things.
The guy I bought it from had gotten a new truck, changed the fluids on this one, and let it sit for about two months (he started it once a week). He drove it to work the day we were suppose to meet up and the SES light came on. It threw codes:
P0541-Intake air heater control low
P0107-MAP/Barometer
P0475-Exhaust pressure control valve
My questions are 1) is there any problem with me driving with these codes? I have been driving the past few days and the truck runs amazing, starts perfectly in the cold, pulls hard and holds boost. Nothing at all feels wrong!!! I need the truck for work and there are no signs that the truck is running bad in any way.
2) So I know that the PCM controls the EBPV and I also know that the barometer is inside the PCM. I am wondering if the PCM might need to be replaced to fix those two codes? I want know pretty certainly though before I go buy the PCM as it is not cheap.
3) Which do you think I should try to attack first? Which is the most important and how critical really is it?
I really appreciate all of your help, knowledge, and advice!
I just bought a 2000 f350 7.3 6 speed with 175k miles. It has a few mods such as a 5 inch lift, 5 inch turbo back exhaust, TS Performance 6 Position Chip and a few other things.
The guy I bought it from had gotten a new truck, changed the fluids on this one, and let it sit for about two months (he started it once a week). He drove it to work the day we were suppose to meet up and the SES light came on. It threw codes:
P0541-Intake air heater control low
P0107-MAP/Barometer
P0475-Exhaust pressure control valve
My questions are 1) is there any problem with me driving with these codes? I have been driving the past few days and the truck runs amazing, starts perfectly in the cold, pulls hard and holds boost. Nothing at all feels wrong!!! I need the truck for work and there are no signs that the truck is running bad in any way.
2) So I know that the PCM controls the EBPV and I also know that the barometer is inside the PCM. I am wondering if the PCM might need to be replaced to fix those two codes? I want know pretty certainly though before I go buy the PCM as it is not cheap.
3) Which do you think I should try to attack first? Which is the most important and how critical really is it?
I really appreciate all of your help, knowledge, and advice!
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I appreciate that advice. Thats what I am hoping. Upon driving it more it seems to provide more power and just generally run better with the chip plugged in (even though its supposedly on the "stock" setting). And my gas mileage has been awful either way. I have used $40 worth of gas in the past 4 days. Im not driving an excessive amount or hauling anything. I do not know what steps to take next.
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I will do that tonight and see how it goes. Without the chip plugged in the truck is slow and sluggish until 2500rpms. With the chip plugged in on the supposed "stock" setting it pulls harder and runs better. I figuring no harm no foul if its driving nicely but now I feel like I am getting awful MPG; even while babying her.
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Please take a picture of the left hand side of the aluminum intake (spider), thing in front of the turbo on your engine that has boots on it.
Also, take a picture of the left hand side base of the pedestal (thing the turbo sits on/bolts to).
Please post both photos so we can see if the AIH & EPCV have been deleted.
Here is a thread about diagnostic solutions via hardware and software. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...the-cheap.html ForScan
Free for laptop and less than $5 for Android.
ForScan is the BOMB and is the least expensive route a fellow could choose. You and we will need the information ForScan provides in order to assist you in the future instead of throwing money at parts while conducting a guessing game.
Get yourself the appropriate adapter for a laptop and your android or apple device.
Don't waste your money on AE. Torque is time consuming if nothing has changed.
Also, take a picture of the left hand side base of the pedestal (thing the turbo sits on/bolts to).
Please post both photos so we can see if the AIH & EPCV have been deleted.
Here is a thread about diagnostic solutions via hardware and software. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...the-cheap.html ForScan
Free for laptop and less than $5 for Android.
ForScan is the BOMB and is the least expensive route a fellow could choose. You and we will need the information ForScan provides in order to assist you in the future instead of throwing money at parts while conducting a guessing game.
Get yourself the appropriate adapter for a laptop and your android or apple device.
Don't waste your money on AE. Torque is time consuming if nothing has changed.
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Please take a picture of the left hand side of the aluminum intake (spider), thing in front of the turbo on your engine that has boots on it.
Also, take a picture of the left hand side base of the pedestal (thing the turbo sits on/bolts to).
Please post both photos so we can see if the AIH & EPCV have been deleted.
Here is a thread about diagnostic solutions via hardware and software. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...the-cheap.html ForScan
Free for laptop and less than $5 for Android.
ForScan is the BOMB and is the least expensive route a fellow could choose. You and we will need the information ForScan provides in order to assist you in the future instead of throwing money at parts while conducting a guessing game.
Get yourself the appropriate adapter for a laptop and your android or apple device.
Don't waste your money on AE. Torque is time consuming if nothing has changed.
Also, take a picture of the left hand side base of the pedestal (thing the turbo sits on/bolts to).
Please post both photos so we can see if the AIH & EPCV have been deleted.
Here is a thread about diagnostic solutions via hardware and software. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...the-cheap.html ForScan
Free for laptop and less than $5 for Android.
ForScan is the BOMB and is the least expensive route a fellow could choose. You and we will need the information ForScan provides in order to assist you in the future instead of throwing money at parts while conducting a guessing game.
Get yourself the appropriate adapter for a laptop and your android or apple device.
Don't waste your money on AE. Torque is time consuming if nothing has changed.
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I pulled my negatives overnight. When I started my truck in the morning the SES light was still on. Didnt seem like anything had changed. Oh and btw it seems like it takes my truck a long time to warm up. I let it warm up for 10 mins before driving and it still isnt up to full operating temp until i drive it for 5+ minutes.
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Hello. I am new to diesels so please bare with me...
...Upon driving it more it seems to provide more power and just generally run better with the chip plugged in (even though its supposedly on the "stock" setting). And my gas mileage has been awful either way. I have used $40 worth of gas in the past 4 days. Im not driving an excessive amount or hauling anything. I do not know what steps to take next...
...Without the chip plugged in the truck is slow and sluggish until 2500rpms. With the chip plugged in on the supposed "stock" setting it pulls harder and runs better. I figuring no harm no foul if its driving nicely but now I feel like I am getting awful MPG; even while babying her...
...Oh and btw it seems like it takes my truck a long time to warm up. I let it warm up for 10 mins before driving and it still isnt up to full operating temp until i drive it for 5+ minutes.
...Upon driving it more it seems to provide more power and just generally run better with the chip plugged in (even though its supposedly on the "stock" setting). And my gas mileage has been awful either way. I have used $40 worth of gas in the past 4 days. Im not driving an excessive amount or hauling anything. I do not know what steps to take next...
...Without the chip plugged in the truck is slow and sluggish until 2500rpms. With the chip plugged in on the supposed "stock" setting it pulls harder and runs better. I figuring no harm no foul if its driving nicely but now I feel like I am getting awful MPG; even while babying her...
...Oh and btw it seems like it takes my truck a long time to warm up. I let it warm up for 10 mins before driving and it still isnt up to full operating temp until i drive it for 5+ minutes.
10 minutes in the driveway uses a lot of fuel, so I just crank up and drive. I'm not saying hop on a freeway onramp or get into a tractor pull with a cold engine, but my first 10 minutes of driving involves some nice warm-up exercises as long as I go easy on the throttle.
As for the truck being gutless until 2500 RPM on a stock tune, you wouldn't likely know that unless you were pressing pretty deep on the right pedal for the lower RPMs. As for the "stock" tune on the chip, it sure doesn't sound all that stock-ish. As for the codes - with or without the chip? When in doubt, de-chip and troubleshoot.
I am moderately modified, and my truck is "gutless" because of the stock-ish tuning down low and my practice of going easy on the throttle... until my foot gets an attitude and there goes the economy.
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10 minutes in the driveway uses a lot of fuel, so I just crank up and drive. I'm not saying hop on a freeway onramp or get into a tractor pull with a cold engine, but my first 10 minutes of driving involves some nice warm-up exercises as long as I go easy on the throttle.
As for the truck being gutless until 2500 RPM on a stock tune, you wouldn't likely know that unless you were pressing pretty deep on the right pedal for the lower RPMs. As for the "stock" tune on the chip, it sure doesn't sound all that stock-ish. As for the codes - with or without the chip? When in doubt, de-chip and troubleshoot.
As for the truck being gutless until 2500 RPM on a stock tune, you wouldn't likely know that unless you were pressing pretty deep on the right pedal for the lower RPMs. As for the "stock" tune on the chip, it sure doesn't sound all that stock-ish. As for the codes - with or without the chip? When in doubt, de-chip and troubleshoot.
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I deleted my Intake Air Heater, so I live with that code. The thing doesn't even turn on anyway, except under very specific scenarios - like planet alignment and turning your head to the right while coughing.
MAP, BARO, and EBP codes? Man... that sounds like a tune is messing with the readings in an effort to "trick" the performance out hiding. Good tuners know how to take the readings they get from the powertrain and adapt the fuel commands to augment the performance in a sensible way. "Hacks" just make sensors lie here and there to get the tune to bend to their will - a little. That latter approach can throw false codes. When in doubt, remove the chip and any programmed tuning - then troubleshoot the powertrain, not the tune/chip/connection to the PCM.
Since you are new to the diesel world, like I was when I first bought this truck - I have something for you. I suffered losses in blood, treasure, and time to learn what I share in the "custom tunes" link in my signature.
MAP, BARO, and EBP codes? Man... that sounds like a tune is messing with the readings in an effort to "trick" the performance out hiding. Good tuners know how to take the readings they get from the powertrain and adapt the fuel commands to augment the performance in a sensible way. "Hacks" just make sensors lie here and there to get the tune to bend to their will - a little. That latter approach can throw false codes. When in doubt, remove the chip and any programmed tuning - then troubleshoot the powertrain, not the tune/chip/connection to the PCM.
Since you are new to the diesel world, like I was when I first bought this truck - I have something for you. I suffered losses in blood, treasure, and time to learn what I share in the "custom tunes" link in my signature.
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