Morning folks.

Just wanted to ask if there is a way to replace my current transmission lines on the passenger side to steel braided lines? Also, is there a kit on the market for this? I'm hoping that these steel braided lines can delete the external tranny filter assembly since I have no filter in there. I've already updated the internal filter and tranny pan to 08 style.

Thanks in advance!

 

Oh and I have the mishimoto radiator too. If I can recall, I think the quick-connects for the tranny lines that plug into the radiator are screwed on. Would be nice if there was a steel braided line that screws on.

 

I've never seen anyone use braided lines in that application, but I don't watch for it either. About 8 years ago when those lines started to leak on my truck I just cut them off after their fittings and installed transmission hose on those "barbs" with three hose clamps and ran it in place.

On another forum there is a member who says running without the filter in place screws up the flow so he says to always run with one. Not if that's true as a) I never tested the theory; b) you talking about completely removing the filter assembly.

My intial thought if you want to use braided lines is not a cheap one. I used to deal a lot with Swageloc for fitting and lines. It's a top quality outfit. They can build braided hoses with Swageloc compression ends that would fit over the lines cut after the fittings, preferable in stainless stee. Their fitting and hoses are used in nuclear power plants and other important situations, so I think transmission lines would be OK.

Building up some hoses from Jegs or Summit would probably also work.

 

In Ca. "The Hose Man" can build just about anything you want and at very reasonable cost. There is another competitor but I don't remember the name off hand. How ya been Dom?

 

That runs counter to whenever I've seen Mark K. weigh in on the subject -- usually when we talk about going to the '08 pan/filter. As I understand it: the transmission has a thermostat that controls whether flow is directed to the front cooler (a minimal amt. may always flow), then the filter is a bypass type off the t-stat controlled flow, and most of the flow is bypassing it anyway -- if you had a clogged filter 100% of the flow from the transmission would go to the cooler. So in Dom's case, if he removes the filter housing, it is the same as a clogged toilet paper filter. IIRC: Mark says the filter housing diverts about 10% to the filter max?

My bet is that is based on something like orifice size on the inlet to the filter.

Jack: any more you can share on what the other forum has used to deduce this flow issue w/o an up front filter in the canister? I'm asking because I plan to run it empty myself after my last filter gets used...

 

Personally, why delete the external filter. It just gives you an extra 10% of filtering over the internal filter. Never heard of too much filtering being bad unless it also involved restricting flow.

 

Guess you noticed I've upgraded my iPad software and now it's back to deciphering my typing.

The dark side was not a positive experience. The poster stated he "tested" the flow with and without the filter and it needed to be place. I was just doing my "I know a guy" aspect.

The filter is cheap, I'm just going to continue to use its ability in concert.

 

^^^Exactly my point way back when in that 08 pan thread. For an 11 dollar filter that catches more microscopic particles why the hell would you not run it. Especially with those electronic solenoids in the valve body. Don't make sense why one will even ask.
That's all I got to say. Anymore is beating a dead horse.

 

One thing to keep in mind when using braided line is support
to keep it from drooping and snagging on something.
Myself I would just let sleeping dogs lie.

 

NO issues having the empty external trans filter (IF you have the upgraded '08 trans pan w/filter). Ford shipped them from the factory empty until they removed them completely. But, as 69cj said, why not continue to have extra filtering!

 

Ya' didn't have to say the dead horse thang....

I believe in my thread on doing the pan/filter conversion, I called it 110% filtering

ok, maybe I'll leave it in there so somebody 2 generations from now will have one damn clean trans...

 

I've returned from the dark side ...... page 7

http://www.trucktransdiag.com/downlo...nical-info.pdf

2008 Filter and Pan upgrade consideration - Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum

 

Jack nailed it

 

Just a hunter / gatherer.

 

And sometimes an archaeologist. Thanks for digging that up. The horse had enough.