Manual to Auto Swap
#1
Manual to Auto Swap
hey guys looking to buy a 2006 F250 right now and found a good deal on one but it has a zf6 in it. I really want an auto and planning to have a 5r110 built to hold 550-600whp minimum. I am planning to run it off of a PCS transmission controller because it has a cummins in it. Will I need any ford PCM for the tranny if I am using the PCS? Or can the pcs and tranny be stand alone? Anything other than a shifter and trans temp gauge that I need?
#3
If this was OBS body style, I could help you a lot more, but I will throw out some things that more knowledge members can elaborate on.
What engine is this truck originally?
Cross member
Flex-plate
Starter
I think transfer case will interchange
Driveshafts
Steering column
Instrument cluster and appropriate wiring
Pedal assemble(to do it right)
Floor tunnel cover
Tranny cooler and lines.
I can't help with the control part of it. Sure it could be done, but most people want to go the other way, and it's a easier swap. I know the auto is stronger, but at least run the zf til it breaks.
What engine is this truck originally?
Cross member
Flex-plate
Starter
I think transfer case will interchange
Driveshafts
Steering column
Instrument cluster and appropriate wiring
Pedal assemble(to do it right)
Floor tunnel cover
Tranny cooler and lines.
I can't help with the control part of it. Sure it could be done, but most people want to go the other way, and it's a easier swap. I know the auto is stronger, but at least run the zf til it breaks.
#4
The ZF6 will hold up to anything you can throw at it without dumping countless thousands into a swap and built trans. Your nuts man. If you want an auto truck, buy an auto truck.
Easiest way to do the swap is find someone with a similar truck who wants the opposite, sounds like you got one already.
Easiest way to do the swap is find someone with a similar truck who wants the opposite, sounds like you got one already.
#5
lol you need a zf6 that bad?
I like driving a stick and have been able to drive one since I was 8. I live and work on the farm so driving a stick is normal around here. Just not sure how old it would get in town in traffic. Then again I don't do a ton of town driving. The manual is shot right now. Gonna have to tow the truck to my house anyways. How much will it cost to rebuild it and a new clutch to hold 500-550 hp?
the truck was originally an automatic. The current owner dropped a zf6 in it with the cummins.
I plan to pull his motor and sell it and drop my motor in it. Trying to convince myself I want the manual. Is a manual any different to drive on a truck like I want versus a gasser or an old farm truck? Gonna be a stiff clutch? Or hard to shift?
Also with the shifter is it possible to change styles? I am planning a complete interior overhaul and gonna be putting a center console in. Is it possible to put a shift handle in that for the zf6? Kinda like a new challenger or something like that
I like driving a stick and have been able to drive one since I was 8. I live and work on the farm so driving a stick is normal around here. Just not sure how old it would get in town in traffic. Then again I don't do a ton of town driving. The manual is shot right now. Gonna have to tow the truck to my house anyways. How much will it cost to rebuild it and a new clutch to hold 500-550 hp?
the truck was originally an automatic. The current owner dropped a zf6 in it with the cummins.
I plan to pull his motor and sell it and drop my motor in it. Trying to convince myself I want the manual. Is a manual any different to drive on a truck like I want versus a gasser or an old farm truck? Gonna be a stiff clutch? Or hard to shift?
Also with the shifter is it possible to change styles? I am planning a complete interior overhaul and gonna be putting a center console in. Is it possible to put a shift handle in that for the zf6? Kinda like a new challenger or something like that
#6
#7
lol you need a zf6 that bad?
I like driving a stick and have been able to drive one since I was 8. I live and work on the farm so driving a stick is normal around here. Just not sure how old it would get in town in traffic. Then again I don't do a ton of town driving. The manual is shot right now. Gonna have to tow the truck to my house anyways. How much will it cost to rebuild it and a new clutch to hold 500-550 hp?
the truck was originally an automatic. The current owner dropped a zf6 in it with the cummins.
I plan to pull his motor and sell it and drop my motor in it. Trying to convince myself I want the manual. Is a manual any different to drive on a truck like I want versus a gasser or an old farm truck? Gonna be a stiff clutch? Or hard to shift?
Also with the shifter is it possible to change styles? I am planning a complete interior overhaul and gonna be putting a center console in. Is it possible to put a shift handle in that for the zf6? Kinda like a new challenger or something like that
I like driving a stick and have been able to drive one since I was 8. I live and work on the farm so driving a stick is normal around here. Just not sure how old it would get in town in traffic. Then again I don't do a ton of town driving. The manual is shot right now. Gonna have to tow the truck to my house anyways. How much will it cost to rebuild it and a new clutch to hold 500-550 hp?
the truck was originally an automatic. The current owner dropped a zf6 in it with the cummins.
I plan to pull his motor and sell it and drop my motor in it. Trying to convince myself I want the manual. Is a manual any different to drive on a truck like I want versus a gasser or an old farm truck? Gonna be a stiff clutch? Or hard to shift?
Also with the shifter is it possible to change styles? I am planning a complete interior overhaul and gonna be putting a center console in. Is it possible to put a shift handle in that for the zf6? Kinda like a new challenger or something like that
The shift lever is held on with two bolts. Have not seen anyone selling aftermarket levers. There are a few people doing short throw kits. Have never personally seen a manual truck with buckets and center floor console, but they may exist not sure.
Trending Topics
#8
Yes the clutch can be very stiff, depends on the style you choose. Dual mass, solid flywheel, dual disc etc. And the stock clutch hydraulics on the Super Dutys leaves something to be desired. They also updated the clutch fork so make sure you get the newer one.
The shift lever is held on with two bolts. Have not seen anyone selling aftermarket levers. There are a few people doing short throw kits. Have never personally seen a manual truck with buckets and center floor console, but they may exist not sure.
The shift lever is held on with two bolts. Have not seen anyone selling aftermarket levers. There are a few people doing short throw kits. Have never personally seen a manual truck with buckets and center floor console, but they may exist not sure.
#9
well I may create the first for a center console with buckets and a manual lol. This zf6 is shot he said only gear that will drive is 4th. Will I have to take it somewhere special to have it rebuilt? And where should I get a clutch? South bend? Is a rebuild something I could do myself in our shop? We have done a few motor swaps and fixing to do a cummins swap. Is a manual a big challenge? Or is it pretty cheap to have done somewhere?
Clutch unless your heavy hauling Luk kit with solid flywheel gives you the best pedal for daily driving.
#10
Dang still sounds like a mess. Wish there was a way to see what's wrong with it before pulling it or having a shop open it up. We have a press. If I'm gonna have to spend very much would rather go Automatic. But either way don't wanna create something that's just gonna keep needing fixed. Will a Reman be good running 5-600 cummins hp? Not planning to haul often in it. Gonna be a daily driver and can haul if needed
#11
Dang still sounds like a mess. Wish there was a way to see what's wrong with it before pulling it or having a shop open it up. We have a press. If I'm gonna have to spend very much would rather go Automatic. But either way don't wanna create something that's just gonna keep needing fixed. Will a Reman be good running 5-600 cummins hp? Not planning to haul often in it. Gonna be a daily driver and can haul if needed
You wont have a problem selling a 4X4 ZF6 working or not if you want to go that route.
#12
The ZF6 will hold up to anything you can throw at it without dumping countless thousands into a swap and built trans. Your nuts man. If you want an auto truck, buy an auto truck.
Easiest way to do the swap is find someone with a similar truck who wants the opposite, sounds like you got one already.
Easiest way to do the swap is find someone with a similar truck who wants the opposite, sounds like you got one already.
Uhhhh...........yes. Exactly
#13
#14