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Old 10-19-2016, 04:01 PM
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Updated Alignment Specs to Help with Tire Wear?

We have a 2012 F150 2WD Harley Edition with 63,000 miles on it and it's eating front tires.

The factory set were shot at 28K, the second set were done at 49K. Both sets had tread left everywhere except the outer edge.

I've had it aligned 3 times in the two years we've owned it. The most recent was when I replaced the last set of tires 10 months ago. I took it to a shop that was well known for being the best in the area for alignment. The equipment was less than 6 months old and the equipment rep was there while the tech did the alignment.

I do all of my own maintenance and rotate the tires myself at every 4000 mile oil change interval.

Even with all of the extra attention the tires outer edge on both sides are feathering to the point where it can be seen and felt by hand.

The new tires have roughly 13K on them and at this rate I'll be lucky to get another 13K on them.

The vehicle is a daily driver. It's not heavily loaded other than groceries and is at stock ride height.

Is anybody aware of different alignment specs that address front tire wear?

Thanks, Ken
 
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Old 10-19-2016, 06:00 PM
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Do you have a copy of the sheet from when your truck was aligned?
 
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Old 10-19-2016, 06:39 PM
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I toed mine out a little outside the window, problem solved. I think it was about a quarter turn on each side. I do have a new Hunter rack at my disposal, but I would have no problem giving a little tweak even without alignment equipment.
 
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If the outer edges of the tire are bald, you have too much Positive Toe, or too much Positive Camber.
I'd really like to see the print out from the alignment.
 
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Old 10-20-2016, 07:42 AM
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The printout I received is attached.
 
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GOOD LORD!!! Is this the before or after?
Look at you numbers for Toe for the left and right front, and then for the total toe settings. You have WAY too much positive toe. I don't see, or know the factory specs, but I do know that is way too high. Anything in red, is out of specs.
Toe settings should be about 1/4th that much toe side to side, and total toe.
You also have half a degree difference in camber, with the lower number being on the right side, that could, cause a slight pull to the right.
 
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Old 10-20-2016, 01:35 PM
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That was after.

It's really getting old dealing with amateurs down here in the land of Pirates.

Just looking at the toe readings I knew there was too much but they swore up and down that it's perfect.

Anybody know the spec?
 
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I'm talking to the shop I use right now and they say your "Total Toe" should be .20 degrees positive. Or you could say that each front wheel should have .10 degrees positive toe. So you have just over twice, the total toe. And that much positive toe, will destroy any tire.
I'd use that print out that they gave you and have a fit, and get a deal on another set of tires for the front. And, reimbursed for that alignment. Then go to a Firestone or a like shop for a good alignment.

Also, when you look at the color pint out from the shop. Anything in RED, is out of factory specs. They gave you the truck back, being out of specs, on the toe settings, and in the camber.

Hope I helped a bit.

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Old 10-21-2016, 06:04 AM
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Thank you for your help.
 
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Old 10-21-2016, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Ken Wolkens
Thank you for your help.
You are welcome. Let us know how everything turns out.
 
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Here are the factory 2012-2013 F150 alignment specs from my Ford manual. Unk Bob is correct. Toe is definitely off. While .40 is acceptable as the high end of the range, your setting is still out of spec. Preferred is .20 and there is no reason while it couldn't be adjusted, accordingly. There is plenty of adjustability in the tie rods.
2013 F150 Alignment Specs.docx
 
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Thanks Mueckster!
 
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