Nice load, but you know a 3V has 100 more HP then you, right?
if youre reasoning that more hp=better towing is true, then i should be towing everything i have with my 5.0 and 5.4 instead of my 7.3. my 5.4 has 40 more hp than my 7.3, but comparing them is a joke. my 5.0 has more hp than a 12v cummins, so it should outpull it too shouldnt it? if you run the 09 f150 on e85 it has more hp than my international road tractor.
i can build a 4 cyl to turn 9k rpm and make 345 hp, so it should outpull your v10 too shouldnt it? it doesnt matter that it only has 200 lbs of tq because it has more hp. right? when it comes to comparing the v10 to a diesel you v10 guys say the v10 is better because it has more hp. but when someone brings up the tundra(which has more hp than the v10) you say the v10 is better because it has more torque. so which is it?
WOW, glad out dropped out of this a while back......
Too funny.....
but now that some have indicated their ages by "in school" , "my dad's".....
understand more of the funny stuff..... carry on.... I'm done....
offered and offered and offered and no takers.... no timeslips, nothing but
"Nannie, Nannie, booh, booh... My v10's, better than YOUR engine...." (IF you lose the turbo, If you..... )
have fun !
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Gone but not forgotten -2003 Ebony Ex, 4x4 6L Westin Bull Bar, PIAA 520's, PIAA Headlamp, TB Exhaust, LOADED...
even goner-2002 4x2 7.3L Ex Limited
WOW, glad out dropped out of this a while back......
Too funny.....
but now that some have indicated their ages by "in school" , "my dad's".....
understand more of the funny stuff..... carry on.... I'm done....
offered and offered and offered and no takers.... no timeslips, nothing but
"Nannie, Nannie, booh, booh... My v10's, better than YOUR engine...." (IF you lose the turbo, If you..... )
have fun !
Wait a damned minute....you HAVE an Xcal device. Go DATALOG exactly the same stuff I have before and compare. That's as close as is logistically possible at the current time.
JL
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2005 4WD Excursion Limited 6.8L/3.73
2005 F250 Crewcab 3V V10/Torqshift 4.10LS
Gone but not fogotten:
1998 F150 Supercab 4.6L/4R70W-Gone,sold to Dad.
2001 Navigator-Gone,Sold to a good friend.
WOW! 109 pages and over 1600 posts, and no one is giving in yet! I will say this. The trucks in my signature, my 97 is my work truck, utility bed, welder, air compressor, cutting torches, tools etc. It's an F-450, 15,000lb GVWR, and it weighs around 13,000lbs the way it sits. I average 12.5mpg, and if you look at the mods I have done on it, it pulls great for a work truck. Fact is, it pulls great period! I have nothing against a gas engine at all, but I bet you can not get a gas engine to do what it does on the same amount of fuel. I've had the truck for 2 and a half years, and I have put over 140,000 miles on it. It has 255,000 miles on the clock right now. Wish it was a manual tranny truck though,,,,,,
V10's Just need one little black Mod...
I just love that thing = Makes a nice desktop. Where do we get one?
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I just noticed the 2nd 230 v alt. must be a cop engine...
if youre reasoning that more hp=better towing is true, then i should be towing everything i have with my 5.0 and 5.4 instead of my 7.3. my 5.4 has 40 more hp than my 7.3, but comparing them is a joke. my 5.0 has more hp than a 12v cummins, so it should outpull it too shouldnt it? if you run the 09 f150 on e85 it has more hp than my international road tractor.
i can build a 4 cyl to turn 9k rpm and make 345 hp, so it should outpull your v10 too shouldnt it? it doesnt matter that it only has 200 lbs of tq because it has more hp. right? when it comes to comparing the v10 to a diesel you v10 guys say the v10 is better because it has more hp. but when someone brings up the tundra(which has more hp than the v10) you say the v10 is better because it has more torque. so which is it?
Get ready for some mathematical equations...
I posted something along the same lines a little while ago, and got a bunch of hp and torque math. Thread has been so busy I havent had a chance to catch up on everything yet though.
Oh and I used a 500 horse honda civic as one of my examples haha.
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Description System Contents Installation Warranty Reviews
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Big trucks need big power, and Paxton Automotive NOVI-2000 systems for Ford's big trucks deliver. At a moderate 8-10 psig of boost, this system for the Triton V10 engine produces an astounding 125 horsepower increase at 4600 rpm, and over 80 lb/ft of torque starting at only 3000 rpm - at the rear wheels. What's more, it does it on 91 octane pump gasoline, without the risk of harmful detonation.
The Paxton NOVI-2000 supercharging system for the Triton V10 powered Super Duty F-250/F-350 Ford Trucks and Ford Excursion comes with 1/2" thick, black anodized billet aluminum mounting brackets, a cast aluminum, rock-honed discharge tube, auxilary in-line fuel pump, fuel control unit and a voucher for a custom-calibrated computer chip, plus all necessary plumbing, hardware and detailed instructions. Like all Paxton Automotive street supercharging systems, this system for the Triton V10 is 50 state emissions-legal, and OBD II compatible.
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* Novi 2000 Supercharger
* 1/2" Thick Billet Aluminum Bracket
* Cast Aluminum Discharge Tubes
* Fuel Control Unit
* Fuel Pump
* Programmed Computer Chip
* High-Flow Air Filter
* By-pass Valve
* Oil Lines
* All hardware and Fasteners
* Instruction Manual
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I posted something along the same lines a little while ago, and got a bunch of hp and torque math. Thread has been so busy I havent had a chance to catch up on everything yet though.
Oh and I used a 500 horse honda civic as one of my examples haha.
i expect all sorts of equations and stuff like that. equations dont pull trailers though. all you ever hear in these debates is hp this and hp that. hp is good for making you go fast but if it amounted to a hill of beans in towing then you wouldnt see 400 hp big rigs or 40 hp bulldozers.
if you want to keep it "equal" then detune the v10 and then put the turbo or supercharger on it. thats the advantage of the turbo diesel. when youre not using the turbo you are running on much less power. helps save fuel and help the longevity of the engine.
take my turbo coupes for example. the normal 2.3 of the day had about 120 hp and my turbo coupe has 190 hp. ford didnt just slap a turbo on the 120 hp 2.3 and call it a day. they detuned it down to about 80 hp and then put a turbo making 20 psi on it to bump it up to 190 hp. that way you get the performance of 190 hp when you get on it, but the gas mileage of 80 hp under normal driving conditions. its the same thing comparing a 7.3 non turbo to a 7.3 turbo.
like john said though, if you want to start modding the engines then put some info up there about the diesel too. once you start modding them this isnt even a debate.
Wait a damned minute....you HAVE an Xcal device. Go DATALOG exactly the same stuff I have before and compare. That's as close as is logistically possible at the current time.
JL
Why ?
I'll post it here and get ALL kinds of excuses, reasons, stimulus, about ...
so why bother ?
If ANYONE is ANYWHERE DFW let's have some fun
I DON'T know what's, what - just offering, ONCE AGAIN, to do a head to head - that's all....
we all know a 12 second run @ sea level is WAY different from a 12 second run at 10,000 feet (or at least most of us do )
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Gone but not forgotten -2003 Ebony Ex, 4x4 6L Westin Bull Bar, PIAA 520's, PIAA Headlamp, TB Exhaust, LOADED...
even goner-2002 4x2 7.3L Ex Limited
Hey, I'm all for doing whatever you want to make your truck or car run better. Adding a super charger or bigger turbo, have at it. It's your vehicle, so do what pleases you! Don't worry what the other guy/gal has. Only one person has to be happy with the vehicle, and that's the owner.
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hp is good for making you go fast but if it amounted to a hill of beans in towing then you wouldnt see 400 hp big rigs or 40 hp bulldozers.
