Hello,
I just bought a 95 F250 with a 5.8L and was looking it over and making a list of the maintainance I want to do, and noticed it didn't have a FL-1A filter that I thought was the standard . It has an adaptor on the block with oil lines going to what I suppose is an inline cooler in the lower radiator hose. At first I thought someone added the cooler, but when I looked at the owners manual, it calls out a different filter, a 820, on only the 5.8L, the 4.9 and 5.0 use the FL-1A. Has anyone else experienced this, and I was wondering if I could replace the cooler in the radiator hose with a conventional finned air cooled one? Also condidering adding a remote mount, so I could go back to the larger FL-1A filter, any thoughts on that. I have had 5 other Fords, a 94 F150 4.9, 88 Bronco 5.8L, 87 F250 4.9, 85 Bronco 5.0L, and a 94 F150 5.0L and they have all used the same filter, so I was supprised when I came across this. Any help of advise would be appreciated.
Yes, the FL820S is the correct filter. That cooler under the oil filter means that you have a tow package. (and one such hose cost around $80, I think)
Nothing wrong with the FL820S. It's common on the modular engines.
Now, WHY Ford did it, I have no idea - they can't seem to make up their minds what filter to use. Example - I had an '05 Freestyle with V-6 - it used the FL820S filter; got a V-6, '08 Taurus "X" last fall to replace it, IT takes the FL400S.
it changed in 94 when the block changed slightly as far as i know. i believe thats when they went to roller cam ready blocks. and 93 and before the 5.8 did take the FL1A. just think what i went through. when i got my truck i knew it had a different motor in it but i didnt know it was a 94 5.8. the previous owner said it was a 92 block. oh well. so i had to go back and buy a 820s. and also the 820s has a newer shorter design. not much of any difference though. dont worry bout it.
Thanks for the replies, the 820 filter doesn't bother me as much as the cooler in the radiator hose. I may still look at re-routing the oil lines to a separate cooler though and replacing the radiator hose. From what I can tell, with the oil cooler adaptor on the block, they had to use the shorter filter because of clearance issues with the crossmember.
It's still a good filter. I'd use it without any hesitation. Sure, the FL1A is quite larger, but the 820S is still the same great quality. I'd say stick with how it is.
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Thank you for all the replies, I believe I am going to trust Ford and leave the set up alone for now, and just concentrate on going through the truck and change all the fluids, and then start on some maintainance items, like u-joints and such.
When I look up a 96 E350 with the 5.8 V8 on Autozone.com, it shows that it calls for an FL1A. Take it for what it's worth.
Problem it was so tight that you couldn't tight oil filter enough without arm hit frame or steering linkage.
it have 1/2" clearance for oil filter near crossback which is bottom of oil pan that what is prevent me from change oil filter. If they could design like Ford 300 then it be so easy to change oil filter.
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I would say most 5.8L applicatoins take the standard FL1A, but because mine has the oil cooler adaptor on it, it requires the 820 due to clearance issues. Also, I took a look at both filters the other day, and they are threaded differently. Without measuring, the FL1A appears to be 3/4", and the 820, possibly 7/8", therefore, they will not interchange. So if it says it takes the FL1A on the E350, I would say it probably does.
The 820S has METRIC threads. Dont even think of trying to interchange them.
If you need a shorter equivalent of the FL-1A for clearance reasons, look for a 1980's Dodge Ram Van application. Our 1987 B-series with the 318 (5.2L) calls for a short version of the otherwise identical design. Funny thing, there is no clearance problem with that engine in that van and I use the long filter.
If you need a shorter equivalent of the FL-1A for clearance reasons, look for a 1980's Dodge Ram Van application. Our 1987 B-series with the 318 (5.2L) calls for a short version of the otherwise identical design
Like a Fram PH-16 & PH43/Purolator L14670 & L10017/WIX 51068 & 51085, etc... There are a pile out there that will work.
Even an FL400S (and its equivalents), which are skinnier than the FL-1A, in case the clearance problem relates to diameter of the filter. There is a slight difference in gasket size between the 400 and the FL1A but the filter gasket boss is generally wide enough that the 400 will fit without leaking.
BTW - the FL400S is a winner for Briggs/Stratton & Kohler lawnmower engines, too, but that's another matter altogether.
BTW #2 - As regards the Frams mentioned earlier, the anti-Frammers are probably jump starting their keyboards right now, but I can tell you that we've used hundreds of Frams for millions of miles, with nary an issue.
Good catch on the metric threads Jim.... I just assumed they had to shorten it to fit.
I have both on the shelf in the garage but sold my 95 5.8 recently. I got the FL1A's for the Town Car (5.0L) and can still use it on the Gravely LI. Pretty strange that a 1 cyl engine would have a bigger filter than an F-250.
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