O, O.K. I usually just type. I didn't mean to seam rude. Uh, by the way "lose" not "loose" spelwing iz inpoten yu no. Just messin' with ya. I've every intention of restoring my grandpa's old truck. I have a 1985 Dodge p/u i've had since new, now it's being replaced with a newer 1986 ford f250. I'm going to visit our local classic car/truck lot (salvage yard) for a tail gate and parts, mine doesn't have one. Well I'm gotta go right now. Thanks again for the advise and all.... hawg gone....